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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 10:20 PM
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Ok guy's i have a 85 gmc SWB with a 305/700r4 set up i want to go bigger .i want to have good power at the wheels and still have a DD .right now i have a 97 vortec 350 blk with the heads and a set of .30 over pistons i was planning on going with a xr288hr cam .would this set up be good or should i go a differnt way
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 11:05 PM
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Dude we are in the same boat
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 07:38 AM
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that's too much cam for a DD. plus you will have to re-work your heads to accept that much lift.

the xr268h is about as big as you wanna go. i was able to run this cam on a stock set of vortecs and it worked very nice, but the lift was really maxxing the heads.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 07:41 AM
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[QUOTE=big hammer;12706957]that's too much cam for a DD. plus you will have to re-work your heads to accept that much lift.

What would be a good cam for it it's gonna be some what of a daily driver i live 7 miles from work i just want to have a good motor with *****

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but if you want to keep the engine a roller then use a cam with .480 lift MAX and keep your duration in that 220-230 @ 50 range
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 07:45 AM
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that's too much cam for a DD. plus you will have to re-work your heads to accept that much lift.

the xr268h is about as big as you wanna go. i was able to run this cam on a stock set of vortecs and it worked very nice, but the lift was really maxxing the heads.[/QUO What would be a good cam for it it's gonna be some what of a daily driver i live 7 miles from work i just want to have a good motor with *****
remember not to over cam your engine. it's a common mistake by many new engine builders. the result is a poorly running engine and under performing

you may want to look at putting in a 2000-2500 stall torque converter while your in there

or just find a 400 small block and have the best of all worlds!

oh and if you use the 97 block, you're gonna need a new flex plate. the 1 piece rear seal crank wont accept the older 2 piece seal design crank flex plate
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Originally Posted by big hammer
but if you want to keep the engine a roller then use a cam with .480 lift MAX and keep your duration in that 220-230 @ 50 range
Would it just be easier to sell this engine and just install a 6.0
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remember not to over cam your engine. it's a common mistake by many new engine builders. the result is a poorly running engine and under performing

you may want to look at putting in a 2000-2500 stall torque converter while your in there

or just find a 400 small block and have the best of all worlds!

oh and if you use the 97 block, you're gonna need a new flex plate. the 1 piece rear seal crank wont accept the older 2 piece seal design crank flex plate
i have a friend that has a 400 laying around give me some ideas for it
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Would i be able to use the piston on a 400
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Nope. Stock piston size in a 400 is 4.125.

The 400 with the vortec heads(make sure you have them machined for higher lift) and a XE274 (230/236) from comp will make a good lil street motor in that truck. You could put an XE268 (224/230) and be on the tamer side.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 01:13 PM
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Nope. Stock piston size in a 400 is 4.125.

The 400 with the vortec heads(make sure you have them machined for higher lift) and a XE274 (230/236) from comp will make a good lil street motor in that truck. You could put an XE268 (224/230) and be on the tamer side.
What HP would u think i could get with the 400 and vortec heads
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If I remember right, CHP (Chevy High Perf. Magazine) did a 400 build with the xe274 and vortec heads and made 440 hp or somewhere in that neighborhood. They later put on a set of AFR's and made 480.
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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
If I remember right, CHP (Chevy High Perf. Magazine) did a 400 build with the xe274 and vortec heads and made 440 hp or somewhere in that neighborhood. They later put on a set of AFR's and made 480.
and probably 450 ft\lbs torque with that too!
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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
Nope. Stock piston size in a 400 is 4.125.

The 400 with the vortec heads(make sure you have them machined for higher lift) and a XE274 (230/236) from comp will make a good lil street motor in that truck. You could put an XE268 (224/230) and be on the tamer side.
the 268 is almost too tame for a 400.. but good in a 350. the xe274 in a 400 would be just nice
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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
If I remember right, CHP (Chevy High Perf. Magazine) did a 400 build with the xe274 and vortec heads and made 440 hp or somewhere in that neighborhood. They later put on a set of AFR's and made 480.

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No that was at the crank, but if I remember right that was on 87 octane. Let me do a lil research and I will post it up.

Edit: It was a Lunati BracketmasterII cam 230/230 480/480 lobe sep. 109. It made 490 hp at 5600 rpm and 529 ft lb at 4100 rpm

http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te...ild/index.html

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