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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 05:52 PM
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ive got a 1981 el camino with a 260 horse GM crate 350, a small cam (dont know specs), edelbrock intake, holley 600 carb(tuned pretty rich, out of the box), headers, true duals. Its running through a TH350 with a shift kit and stock stall, stock 10 bolt rear. I ran a 16.2 at 85mph with a leaky edelbrock 650, but it doesnt feel much better with the holley.

Is it my stock stall, my stock rearend, the holley, or what thats making this thing so slow? the DA was about 3000 that night but i figure i should be busting at least low 15's with nearly 300 crank hp.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 06:10 AM
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Do you know what gear is in it?
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 09:20 AM
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without running the numbers on the rear, weight, stall, etc.
a crate 350 is notorious for having low compression, near 8.0:1 if not lower, which will be a fundamental problem. you do not have 300 crank hp, and you won't know what you have till you dyno it,
I think the main solution would be to upgrade cylinder heads,
at least with vortecs (will be the cheapest route) having 64cc combustion chambers which will get you over 9.0 on compression. And at that point, the crate cam would probably be ok but if you're going to the trouble and expense of new heads then it would be silly not to upgrade the cam while you're there.
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 12:37 AM
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What is the timing and fuel pressure?

Make sure it has 5-7 psi fuel pressure and maybe 32 degrees total timing. Put new plugs in it, make some full throttle runs and pull them out, if they are black, take some jetting out of it.
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 09:05 PM
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just an assumption--- you're likely running 2:73 gears...? are you still in 2nd at the end of the 1\4? whats your 60' ?

2:73 gears are absolutely brutal... swap in some 3:73's!
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 12:48 AM
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just an assumption--- you're likely running 2:73 gears...? are you still in 2nd at the end of the 1\4? whats your 60' ?

2:73 gears are absolutely brutal... swap in some 3:73's!
no tach so idk for sure, but probably about 3200 or so across the line in 3rd.

i want a cheap fix, not heads or gears haha.. i think the 260 hp crate has 8.5 to 1 out of the box. the cam thats in it isnt what came in the crate motor, it was swapped out afterwards. i havent checked the timing because i dont have a timing light but i thought that might be one of the issues.. i cut a 2.3 60' with no wheelspin
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 08:07 AM
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gears are likely a big issue. but also make sure your mechanical advance is working (when the weights get wore out they jam on each other) and also make sure your secondaries are opening
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by big hammer
gears are likely a big issue. but also make sure your mechanical advance is working (when the weights get wore out they jam on each other) and also make sure your secondaries are opening
the secondaries are opening, it just seems like theyre really late.. when they do it really wakes up.. like i said, the carbs outta the box, and im no good at tuning 4 barrels.
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by violent_celerity
the secondaries are opening, it just seems like theyre really late.. when they do it really wakes up.. like i said, the carbs outta the box, and im no good at tuning 4 barrels.
is the carb new? if so it should have came with more secondary springs--- i believe the yellow one is the lightest. you can even pull the spring right out and try that too
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by big hammer
is the carb new? if so it should have came with more secondary springs--- i believe the yellow one is the lightest. you can even pull the spring right out and try that too
I would even change the springs in the distributor to give you more timing earlier on. Gears will have a big factor in your times.

To bad we dont know what cam your running. May have too much for your compression. Does it have a lope at all?
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Big D Mcgee
I would even change the springs in the distributor to give you more timing earlier on. Gears will have a big factor in your times.

To bad we dont know what cam your running. May have too much for your compression. Does it have a lope at all?
no its a small cam, not much lope.. the guy we bought it from had all the work done and didnt remember the cam specs
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