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Old May 27, 2010 | 11:44 AM
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Hello, I have a 383 for my Nova and heres what I have so far..

Scat forged 3.75" crank
Oliver 6" 4340 rods
SRP professional series pistons
11.1:1 CR
Comp Solid Roller cam..specs TBD but lift will be somewhere around .690/.650 and 250's/260 duration @.050"

Holley Strip Domintaor intake 300-25
Pro Systems 950 carb.

They only thing I have questions about are the heads... I am looking at either the IK210, or the Track1 215 CNC head. Has anyone used either of these heads?

I know alot of people use AFR stuff, and I was looking into a set of 210 eliminators, but my local engine builder get Brodix stuff for less than or equal to AFR.

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Old May 27, 2010 | 12:06 PM
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In regards, how do you know how much compression you are going to have if you don't know what heads you want? I have never bought a set of domed pistons without knowing what cc combustion chamber I am going to run.
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Old May 27, 2010 | 01:29 PM
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In regards, how do you know how much compression you are going to have if you don't know what heads you want? I have never bought a set of domed pistons without knowing what cc combustion chamber I am going to run.
I am running a flat top piston and I will get a 64cc head. That was the combination I was running before with my old set up... It may vary slightly, depending on how the chambers cc out to, but it will be between 11.0 and 11.25..
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Old May 27, 2010 | 02:48 PM
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Ask Andy, he should have good advice. He built a 406 years ago for me. Mostly stock short block, but it ran hard. That was back when I used to run into him cruising the streets of Bloomsburg with his low 7 second camaro.
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Originally Posted by ajensen383
Hello, I have a 383 for my Nova and heres what I have so far..

Scat forged 3.75" crank
Oliver 6" 4340 rods
SRP professional series pistons
11.1:1 CR
Comp Solid Roller cam..specs TBD but lift will be somewhere around .690/.650 and 250's/260 duration @.050"

Holley Strip Domintaor intake 300-25
Pro Systems 950 carb.

They only thing I have questions about are the heads... I am looking at either the IK210, or the Track1 215 CNC head. Has anyone used either of these heads?

I know alot of people use AFR stuff, and I was looking into a set of 210 eliminators, but my local engine builder get Brodix stuff for less than or equal to AFR.

Thanks
Go with track1 head if you want to go with the Brodix head. You can't go wrong with either head. It will be a stout lil motor with either head.

Just went to the track last night with my buddy's 68 camaro and he has a 383 with the same specs and has Brodix heads and it went 10.21 on the motor.
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Old May 30, 2010 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by pancherj
Ask Andy, he should have good advice. He built a 406 years ago for me. Mostly stock short block, but it ran hard. That was back when I used to run into him cruising the streets of Bloomsburg with his low 7 second camaro.
Well, he said I should just run the heads that I have,an OLD set of -8 Brodix are ported pretty good since he went 8.60s years ago on a set of them ... BUt he also said that a new design head would probably make more power since they have better combustion chambers and runners...Andy said either head would would work well on it, and it depends on how much money I want to spend...so thats why I figured Id ask if anyone has any experience with them on here...
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Go with track1 head if you want to go with the Brodix head. You can't go wrong with either head. It will be a stout lil motor with either head.

Just went to the track last night with my buddy's 68 camaro and he has a 383 with the same specs and has Brodix heads and it went 10.21 on the motor.

Just wondering...what ARE the specs on your buddy's motor, just so I can compare... 10.21 is gettin it done with a 383!!!!
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Originally Posted by ajensen383
Just wondering...what ARE the specs on your buddy's motor, just so I can compare... 10.21 is gettin it done with a 383!!!!
Brodix Track1's ported by our buddy who went to Joe Mondello Head Porting school. 258/264 630/630 solid roller. Vic Jr. intake 830 cfm Holley HP carb.
The car has a glide in it now but it had a th350 before but the times aren't much different.

Stock suspension but upgraded components from Performance Suspension. Car weighs 2950 with no driver. 29x10 slicks, 4.10 gears. Car has gone as quick as 9.67 on the bottle but that spraying in second gear only, were still working out some bugs.
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I'm using a Track 1 head and it's a good piece. Can't compare them to AFR seeing as I have never used them but Brodix will always be my first choice for cylinder heads.

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Old May 30, 2010 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BassProCamaro97
I'm using a Track 1 head and it's a good piece. Can't compare them to AFR seeing as I have never used them but Brodix will always be my first choice for cylinder heads.

~Jim~
Are using a CNC track 1, or standard??

I have always used brodix stuff too, but the info i see about the AFR stuff seems pretty impressive...My problem is, I know Brodix stuff is good, and I know alot of fast cars use them, but if you use one thing all the time, you dont know what else is out there that could be better... I have seen some good reviews about the Pro-filer heads out now too
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Old May 30, 2010 | 10:57 PM
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PBM is selling a 23 degree head cnc ported by HVC, based on a -12 brodix head..330 cfm@.700 with great mid lift numbers , tell Andy to give jerry ruhl a call, they know each other pretty well.
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If you want a step above AFR and Brodix go look at a set of All-Pro's. Your wallet will be as thin as paper if you buy a set though.
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 01:36 PM
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brodix headhunter 23* series is what id use


or look up ray frank's profiler heads
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I'm using the non CNC'd and if I had the option I would go with the head hunters as well.

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afr are said to be top of the line.
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Go to the race track and look under most racecars hoods and you will see more Bordix than anything else. reason is b/c they are proven and work period. i use stock GM castings that are max ported by LE and run 10's on motor with my pumpgas 383 easy. It looks like you have a nice build going so just order the Brodix 215's along with your parts that will make 550+HP. I would also upgrade to a Super vic intake for some extra HP. Later Clint
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 12:59 PM
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Well, I made my decision about heads after talking with some people... I went with the Pro-Filer 210's ported by Chad Speier. I have read tons of awesome things about them, and for the price I couldnt beat them... Chad sent a head up to me to look at and Andy Jensen himself said it was the best as cast head hes ever seen... I saved a bit more money than the CNC Brodix and I have room to go bigger,if needed... I also got the cam today.. I went with a Harold Brooksire special grind... 255/263 @.050 .704/.682... 106cl... Looking forward to seeing what this baby makes

Clint... Actually the Holley 300-25 is a better intake out of the box than a Super Victor is. IF the Super VIc is ported, that it will blow a HOlley away, but as far as out of the box, its not as good.
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Originally Posted by ajensen383
Well, I made my decision about heads after talking with some people... I went with the Pro-Filer 210's ported by Chad Speier. I have read tons of awesome things about them, and for the price I couldnt beat them... Chad sent a head up to me to look at and Andy Jensen himself said it was the best as cast head hes ever seen... I saved a bit more money than the CNC Brodix and I have room to go bigger,if needed... I also got the cam today.. I went with a Harold Brooksire special grind... 255/263 @.050 .704/.682... 106cl... Looking forward to seeing what this baby makes

Clint... Actually the Holley 300-25 is a better intake out of the box than a Super Victor is. IF the Super VIc is ported, that it will blow a HOlley away, but as far as out of the box, its not as good.
I thought the Profiler heads would be alot more expensive then Brodix but I guess not. The Profiler heads are definately top notch and I would like to look at a set up close also. I never use intakes out of the box so thats why i say go with the super vic. As far as camshaft, those are almost exactly the specs that I am ordering except from Bullet. Goodluck and let us know how it works out for you. Later
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I thought the Profiler heads would be alot more expensive then Brodix but I guess not. The Profiler heads are definately top notch and I would like to look at a set up close also. I never use intakes out of the box so thats why i say go with the super vic. As far as camshaft, those are almost exactly the specs that I am ordering except from Bullet. Goodluck and let us know how it works out for you. Later
No, the Pro-Filers are actually pretty cheap compared to a CNC Brodix... Out of the box from Pro-Filer they are $900 bare and will flow 300 with a 2.08 valve..Pretty Impressive.. This is a 210 head.. I talked to Chad Speier at www.speierracingheads.com about them and he was cool enough to send one up for me to look at free of charge.. If you havent bought heads yet, I would definitly give him a call... He is a professional head porter, so he has had just about everything across his bench to test.. I should be getting my heads from him within the next week or so... I am sure the cams will be pretty similar, since BUllet, is pretty much the old Ultradyne, which Harold Brookshire designed.... Do you know what the grind number of cam is you ordered???

I will be dynoing my engine within the next month or so..whenever I get it finished... I will share results, it should be interesting
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No one's mentioned Dart?

I'm running the Dart Pro 1s 227 CNC'd heads/top-end combo. They flow 319cfm at .700".
Have em on my 388ci stroker, Comp Cams solid roller (.260/.270, .688/.689). Seems to run fine . No numbers or times yet...still finishing up the nitrous install.

Anyway...just throwing it out there...haven't used other products so I honestly can't compare it to anything else.
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