planning a new project... check out this idea
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well I have pretty much ditched the idea of doing the 408/sprayed or boosted ls1 and just drop a cam only ls6 off in the TA and find ANOTHER car, something like a Chevy II rolling chassis. Start off with a Bill Mitchell 632 shortblock and top that off with a set of Brodix PB 1802's PB 1803's or some Brodix PB 2005's PB 2005's I'de top it off with a matched intake and a camshaft thats pretty wild in the .700's or early .800's lift ranges(which wouldn't be THAT wild for this size engine).
BUT the WHOLE thing is that I would like to keep it streetable. I'm not sure if it could be done but I think it would be ok with something around 12.5:1 compression with some REALLY high octane. These heads have REALLY small combustion chambers so I think compression would be pretty high being that Bill Mitchell states that the street shortblock makes 10.4:1 with a 119CC head and if I read the chart right on the brodix sight the 1802's have a 91cc and the 2005's have an 80CC chamber.
I don't like all out race cars and thats why I am choosing to try to make it streetable. But would a head this size actually perform worth a **** on the street? I assume that it would work nicely with the cubic inches I wanted to run. It says to run a minimum of 13.5:1 compression, but they say to use a minimum of 11.5:1 with the track 1 heads that I have on my 383. So I don't see any reason that I shouldn't be able to make some VERY sick horsepower, and then put about a 400 shot of nitrous on top, and drive her around town every once in a blue moon..... its going to be more of a car that I just keep in the shop and take to the race track every once in a while and when someone comes to town talking **** to me in my slower cars I can pull her outa the shed and go wax some ***. I'de be looking to spend around 14K in the engine alone being that the shortblock is 6,000, heads are 4,400, a valve train will run about 2,000 with shaft mounted rockers, the pushrods, the cam, and the lifters. Of coarse gaskets and other little doo-dads would put me over that probably but not bad.
I want to run 8's on motor and then hit the button.
Sorry for the long post but I just got really fed up with some people last night and I lost my give a f*** and decided to go all the hell out and stop f***in bullshittin around.
Josh S.
BUT the WHOLE thing is that I would like to keep it streetable. I'm not sure if it could be done but I think it would be ok with something around 12.5:1 compression with some REALLY high octane. These heads have REALLY small combustion chambers so I think compression would be pretty high being that Bill Mitchell states that the street shortblock makes 10.4:1 with a 119CC head and if I read the chart right on the brodix sight the 1802's have a 91cc and the 2005's have an 80CC chamber.
I don't like all out race cars and thats why I am choosing to try to make it streetable. But would a head this size actually perform worth a **** on the street? I assume that it would work nicely with the cubic inches I wanted to run. It says to run a minimum of 13.5:1 compression, but they say to use a minimum of 11.5:1 with the track 1 heads that I have on my 383. So I don't see any reason that I shouldn't be able to make some VERY sick horsepower, and then put about a 400 shot of nitrous on top, and drive her around town every once in a blue moon..... its going to be more of a car that I just keep in the shop and take to the race track every once in a while and when someone comes to town talking **** to me in my slower cars I can pull her outa the shed and go wax some ***. I'de be looking to spend around 14K in the engine alone being that the shortblock is 6,000, heads are 4,400, a valve train will run about 2,000 with shaft mounted rockers, the pushrods, the cam, and the lifters. Of coarse gaskets and other little doo-dads would put me over that probably but not bad.
I want to run 8's on motor and then hit the button.
Sorry for the long post but I just got really fed up with some people last night and I lost my give a f*** and decided to go all the hell out and stop f***in bullshittin around.
Josh S.
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Sounds like a cool combo ![Grin](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_grin.gif)
I'd keep the compression under 11.5 to 1 unless it'd have a huge cam to help with detonation. Personally to me, a street car means pump gas because last I checked you can't buy leaded race gas at any gas station. Any poser street car that shows up smelling of race gas gets a bum rap in most places, unless it hauls major ***. I know about 100 octane unleaded, but $4+ bucks a gallon would get old quick (probably also make you shy away from driving it much as fill-ups get expensive). Hot Rod's pump gas drags got TON of entries last year, and I'm sure they'll get more this year. Either way, good luck with the new build!
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I'd keep the compression under 11.5 to 1 unless it'd have a huge cam to help with detonation. Personally to me, a street car means pump gas because last I checked you can't buy leaded race gas at any gas station. Any poser street car that shows up smelling of race gas gets a bum rap in most places, unless it hauls major ***. I know about 100 octane unleaded, but $4+ bucks a gallon would get old quick (probably also make you shy away from driving it much as fill-ups get expensive). Hot Rod's pump gas drags got TON of entries last year, and I'm sure they'll get more this year. Either way, good luck with the new build!
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With a flat top piston the compression would be around 12.5:1 with a 80 cc combustion chamber.
I am now juggling ideas between building the trans am or a race car..... its a hard decision to make between a low 9 second ls1 car that could be driven everyday and a low 8 or high 7 second race car.
Josh S.
I am now juggling ideas between building the trans am or a race car..... its a hard decision to make between a low 9 second ls1 car that could be driven everyday and a low 8 or high 7 second race car.
Josh S.
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Originally Posted by Ls1LikeNoOther
To be streetable your gunna want under 12 compressions,around town anything more than that is gunna kill parts.
Josh S.