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Old May 4, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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After watching Pinks earlier with that really fast Camaro running the SB2.2 setup on N20 I got to thinking, how much it would cost for a complete engine with SB2.2 components? I know the heads alone are like 4k or so, any ideas how much a complete motor would cost?

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Old May 4, 2006 | 09:13 PM
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There is nothing about an SB2.2 setup that isn't expensive. We have about $25,000 in ours and that doesn't include the fuel system to support it or the nitrous hardware. Figure an easy $30,000. You can go cheaper but it won't survive very long. For what it's worth my cost estimate should be right on for his as our motors are almost identical. His is a 394 making 740 on motor and about 1000 on spray. Ours is a 396 making the same 740 on motor and 1050 on nitrous.
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Old May 4, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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If you use used parts you'd have a hard time doing it for 4k you need good heads..ones that havent become soft due to overheating crew cheifs love their grill tape... you need a manifold to go with the heads there fit to each other rocker arms push rods valve springs I think you'd be into a SB2.2 for 7 to 10g to do it rite and thats just the top end complete motor would be some 15-70 depending on how hardcore you went modern cup motors upwards of 75k
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Old May 4, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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Mine were 3000 and came with new Ti valves and T&D shaft rockers. they were in excellent condition. As the above post states however, be careful, Cup stuff is used very hard. 15 seems doable with a carb but not with EFI.
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Old May 5, 2006 | 01:02 PM
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I pretty much figured it would be out of the reach of your average enthusiast pricewise. From what I've read it appears you can use normal shortblocks as long as you use offset lifters. 20k or so on the top end of a motor is beyond expensive, but it looks like nothing else can make that kind of power.
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Old May 5, 2006 | 02:20 PM
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You guys sure do like to spend money on Sb2 stuff think going sb2/n2o is bucks... try turbo'd

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Id skip the idea of a SB2 and go with a gen 1 sbc like you got and bolt on some 18 deg heads and valvetrain still spendy but not as much put a turbo or Procharger on it
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18* is cheaper...but not much I have a 18* top end sitting here with the Hogans
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Old May 5, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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Id skip the idea of a SB2 and go with a gen 1 sbc like you got and bolt on some 18 deg heads and valvetrain still spendy but not as much put a turbo or Procharger on it
I knew I wouldn't have the $$ to pull it off, but my friend was thinking he might be able to after seeing that car on Pinks. I was thinking around 10k for the top end alone, looks like that was conservative. I did find a complete SB2.2 top end on ebay for 6600 though.
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Old May 5, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TwoFast4Lv
18* is cheaper...but not much I have a 18* top end sitting here with the Hogans

Hey! I want that Hogans!
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you can do it pretty reasonable if you shop around and know what to look for. the sb2 motor in that camaro ran good but that nova was just a total pos that instead of the claimed 1000 hp 555 probably made 750 it just flat didn't run worth a crap. i also thought it was funny they said the value of the cars were 70,000 a piece. thats a joke if i has 70 in a car and it didn't run 7.50's i'd be pissed.
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Originally Posted by 91Z28
I pretty much figured it would be out of the reach of your average enthusiast pricewise. From what I've read it appears you can use normal shortblocks as long as you use offset lifters. 20k or so on the top end of a motor is beyond expensive, but it looks like nothing else can make that kind of power.
Your "normal" shortblock better be able to stand 8000+ rpms and have the strength to do it for period of time. It has to have custom pistons and SB2's come with real shallow chambers (38-48cc). BTW, those offset lifters are $700+. Add in custom pushrods, $500+, Special Cam $500, Custom pistons, $700 easy, SB2 intake and spyder, $500, top notch crank and rods (if you want it to live) $2000-$3000. This doesn't take into account a standalone EFI (if going that route, a carb would be the economical choice) $2500+, Huge *** throttle body and elbow $1000, big injectors (mine are 83's) $400+, Ignition and electronics, $?, Machine work and assembly, $?, etc...

I am not trying to sway you, your friend or anyone else against it but I had the same thought process "hell, the heads are a deal all I need is few custom items and I'm in business with my shortblock". We found out quick that it's big bucks.
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Old May 5, 2006 | 06:14 PM
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Your "normal" shortblock better be able to stand 8000+ rpms and have the strength to do it for period of time. It has to have custom pistons and SB2's come with real shallow chambers (38-48cc). BTW, those offset lifters are $700+. Add in custom pushrods, $500+, Special Cam $500, Custom pistons, $700 easy, SB2 intake and spyder, $500, top notch crank and rods (if you want it to live) $2000-$3000. This doesn't take into account a standalone EFI (if going that route, a carb would be the economical choice) $2500+, Huge *** throttle body and elbow $1000, big injectors (mine are 83's) $400+, Ignition and electronics, $?, Machine work and assembly, $?, etc...

I am not trying to sway you, your friend or anyone else against it but I had the same thought process "hell, the heads are a deal all I need is few custom items and I'm in business with my shortblock". We found out quick that it's big bucks.
I agree that it would be beyond costly. I was kind of hoping it could be done for around 10k because then my buddy might have tried it out, and I'd definitely want to see a car like that in action.
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Old May 5, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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look around it's very doable i know where 3 are locally for a good deal my buddy just put a nasty one together for about 10k. here are a few i found in 5 minutes.
http://www.racingjunk.com/post/638664/SB2-MOTOR.html
http://www.racingjunk.com/post/63937...-Head-Kit.html
http://www.racingjunk.com/post/64085...-00-01-ca.html
http://www.racingjunk.com/post/62232...vy-engine.html
http://www.racingjunk.com/post/61624...NX-Fogger.html
these are a few but you can find the stuff everywhere.
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That's the way to do it. I'd look for the right engine already together. preferably one that came from a team like the one that lost their sponsor so the motor is fairly fresh.
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screw the EFI I'd run some split 1050's I dont think you'd be able to run a cup style rotating assembly with the ultra light parts a shot of N20 on Honda journal stuff or smaller would seriously **** it off after awhile..
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Yeah those journals are scary small when you look at them.
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How expensive would a splayed valve setup be?
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Old May 14, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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do the 18* they you can pick them up pretty cheap now days. im building a 434 with a set that should have about 750 hp na then a 200 or so shot on top of that. and the short block can be had for under 4 grand
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