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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by FieroZ34
You're happy with 400whp?

Do us a favor, buy a Honda.
As a driver that would be nice I wouldn't build a long runner car as a race machine just a nice stoplight racer a street cruiser or maybe auto X car


OH and **** YOU I'll buy whatever I please thanks

Not everything has to be built heavy and not everybody wants 500+ Wheel horse sometimes a large area under the curve is more desirable
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FieroZ34
You're happy with 400whp?

Do us a favor, buy a Honda.
I personally think this post, along with every other one of yours in this thread, is rediculous. There was nothing in the original post about ls1's. The ls1 is a superior motor in every way to both the lt and tuned port but that wasnt the question. 400 wheel horsepower is a lot of power and very fun to drive on the street. From the sound of things you dont have anywhere near this. A stock ls1 will put down around 300 at the wheels. 400 wheel hp will equate to roughly 460 flywheel hp with 15% drivetrain loss. No bolt on only ls1 can do that, you will have to add a cam or mild FI to get to that number. The L98 has much potential with newer technology and can be built cheaper. 5000 rpm shift points are fun on the street when you dont need or have the room to rev past 6500. Why place extra stress on your motor from the extra revs when you can make that power lower in the powerband? If high revving is what its all about, then why do people even bother to build 383's???? Why not just build 327's and rev them to the moon? Because they want low end grunt and street-friendly torque. Please take your useless comments and informationless posts elsewhere as this is a friendly forum dedicated to answering questions and helping others solve their problems. So go have fun at your fiero forums or driving your mommy and daddy's Camaro and come back when you buy your own.

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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by the_merv
I don't need that much, I want that much..That is why I am building a 408ci L92.
There is nothing wrong with having power on the street, just don't hammer it all the time. When someone wants to play, then bring it out and **** them up..
True but there gets to be a point where drivability is compromised for huge power on the street a power adder is where its at IMHO

Do I need half the **** I have on my car **** no do I want it yes

Point is theres a car and a motor for everyone and everyones application just because its not up to your standards doesn't make it any less cool if you want a huge high horse motor go for it but don't belittle other peoples **** just cause your **** makes more power thats just an ******* thing to do
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Strokinit383
I personally think this post, along with every other one of yours in this thread, is rediculous. There was nothing in the original post about ls1's. The ls1 is a superior motor in every way to both the lt and tuned port but that wasnt the question. 400 wheel horsepower is a lot of power and very fun to drive on the street. From the sound of things you dont have anywhere near this. A stock ls1 will put down around 300 at the wheels. 400 wheel hp will equate to roughly 460 flywheel hp with 15% drivetrain loss. No bolt on only ls1 can do that, you will have to add a cam or mild FI to get to that number. The L98 has much potential with newer technology and can be built cheaper. 5000 rpm shift points are fun on the street when you dont need or have the room to rev past 6500. Why place extra stress on your motor from the extra revs when you can make that power lower in the powerband? If high revving is what its all about, then why do people even bother to build 383's???? Why not just build 327's and rev them to the moon? Because they want low end grunt and street-friendly torque. Please take your useless comments and informationless posts elsewhere as this is a friendly forum dedicated to answering questions and helping others solve their problems.

Thank you thats the best post in this thread yet IMHO
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by FieroZ34
So is it 6500rpm or 8,000rpm?

And those heads must be quite godly to support 550hp.

Same with the cam.

And that distributor.

And that holy EFI system.

So basically, replace every part related to it being an L98, and it can perform like any other SBC. Who coulda guessed? You're genius.
Are you ******* retarded? Did you fail reading comprehension? The BOTTOM END can handle 550 HP and 6500 rpm. An HSR can provide airflow in a 350 for up to 8000 RPM. The heads aren't that great, so you REPLACE THEM with good ones. Kinda like when you take an LS1, put a cam, and heads on them, you know to make them go FASTER. Asswipe...
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by FieroZ34
You're happy with 400whp?

Do us a favor, buy a Honda.
just curious, but how much does your turd SS make? I am sure my LS1 makes more. Besides with a name like FieroZ34, your opinion and taste in cars is completely illegitimate.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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How about we all stop being bitches and get back to the Thread Topic..
L98, or Tuned Port..
Basically the same low-end as the LT1, still a Gen I 350, just without the Reverse Cooling. It has the standard Distributor, and the Water Pump isn't driven off of the Timing Chain. The upper end is the power killer, long runners give it good torque at low RPM, but it's maxed at like 5K. I have seen an after market setup that had 4 Runners, instead of 8.
The LT1..
Similar low-end as the L98, but Reverse Cooled and with the suttle differences as metioned above. It also uses the OPTI Spark Distributor. The upper end however, little bit better setup. Heads are capable for higher Compression cause of the Reverse Cooling, they flow a little better, and the Intake has them nice short 9" Runners, capable of going to some good high RPM's.
Both are Multi-Port Fuel Injected, and use the same Throttle Body.
I am sure someone can fill in the rest..
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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A LT1 is nothing more than a reverse cooled L98 with Vortec type heads and a good MPFI.
Its everything SBC guys have hoped for.... with some really big QUIRKS. 1) the cam driven water pump, 2)the POS opti, and 3)the plastic oil pump drive necessated by the POS opti. Other than that the LT1 is golden.

There are solutions to all the quirks as usual.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 07:50 PM
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Um 400hp AT THE WHEELS! Is good enough on the street.....

**** how fast are bolton LS1s going with a tire? Yeah 11s!

And thats in the mid 300hps....
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by the_merv
Intake has them nice short 9" Runners, capable of going to some good high RPM's.
I hope your including the head in those numbers cause an LT1 intakes runner is way shorter than that
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 07:10 AM
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Total length of the Runners, including Heads, is like 9". The L98 is around 27". Good Torque, but hits it's limit quick. The LT1 Intake can out-run the Engine.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 08:42 AM
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You could also do a TPIs mini ram for a L98. Very similar to a LT1 intake and shows great gains up top compared to the stock intakes.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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or an lt-1 intake conversion but I think Holley stealthram is the best option it gives a very wide power band and IIRC its fairly similar in length to LS1 intakes
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