Pit Bull Attacks A Baby
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eh, hope you don't get mad about this Adam...
I think it mostly depends on how they are raised. With that said, I believe at the same time you should air a little bit of extra caution because they are known as an unpredictable breed. I wouldn't put a 6 year old in a room with 2 pit bulls, but I would with 2 chows. Why? The chows can't kill them, the pit bulls may.
I think it mostly depends on how they are raised. With that said, I believe at the same time you should air a little bit of extra caution because they are known as an unpredictable breed. I wouldn't put a 6 year old in a room with 2 pit bulls, but I would with 2 chows. Why? The chows can't kill them, the pit bulls may.
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chows are on the top 5 for the most attacks never leave a kid 12 or under un supervised with any dog. i have 2 pit bulls, a rot and a wennie they need to be trained a dog does what is wants unless trained otherwise, you need positive and negative reinforcement you knock the **** out of them when they are bad eventually they will not want to get hit and stop
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chows are on the top 5 for the most attacks never leave a kid 12 or under un supervised with any dog. i have 2 pit bulls, a rot and a wennie they need to be trained a dog does what is wants unless trained otherwise, you need positive and negative reinforcement you knock the **** out of them when they are bad eventually they will not want to get hit and stop
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I have no doubt pits are loyal and loving to their owners and owners family, and even strangers as long as the owner is present. When the owner isn't present though, its a different story. No matter how you raise them, I do not believe you can supress their nature. I have seen a pit bull puppy whimpering in my wifes lap turn and bite Richie (my shitzu) on the ***, then posture up and growl... then go right back to whimpering in my wifes lap when Richie ran off. If one ever wandered onto my place, I would keep my family in the house and my Glock in my waistband until I either got him ran off or ended.
I don't think they should persecuted for their nature (they're not evil beasts), but I don't want them in my back yard either.
I don't think they should persecuted for their nature (they're not evil beasts), but I don't want them in my back yard either.
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these are the pups
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Hmm.....A computer is only as smart as it's programmer, a car is only as fast or dangerous as the driver, guns don't go off by theirselves, and dogs only act how they were trained too.
My $.02
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Thats fine and all, but that still doesnt explain why pits are in the bottom percentage for dog population, but the top dog for killing other animals and people. Thats a fact. You can call it an opinion all you want, but its the truth. Proper training helps, dont get me wrong. In the end, you can take the dog out of the fight, but you cant take the fight out of the dog.
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ok sooo... the argument that you're proving is the Pit Bull breed is naturally aggressive, thus making them more known to attack then compared to lets says a Lab.
Out of Any of the research/stats that you are finding... does it say WHY a pit pull would be by nature more aggressive then say my lab? This is assuming that there is NO training, starving, neglect, etc.
I'm not arguing either way... I'm just asking if anyone has found information on that.
I know in my heart that ANY dog is going to respect the hand that feeds... I took care of a pit bull at my shop for many years before he got hit by a car, he came up to me as a stray one day... I was scared of it at first because of that stigma on Pits.. but after it realized i would feed and take care of him, he was as lovable as my lab retriever is.
There was a guy next door to me in the apt i lived in a few years back in Athens. The guy had a pitbull. He had him on a weight plan (for who knows why), got a tough looking metal chain-link choker leash for him. He would leave the dog at home about 15 hours a day. The dog would **** and crap in this guy's apartment while he neglected to take him out. He would lock him in a room when he wouldnt stop barking because he just wanted to go outside. One day... the dog figured out he could go through the screened window (the guy would crack the windows in his apt.)... i saw the dog outside and tried to get him to come back towards the guy's apartment. The dog would get into a fighting position and rare back when i would come near him... ultimately i had to call the dog catcher on him because I wouldnt bring my dog outside in fear of him attacking my dog. Now it could have been a roth, lab, sheltie, shitzu, or whatever... but any dog treated like **** is going to act like that.
Out of Any of the research/stats that you are finding... does it say WHY a pit pull would be by nature more aggressive then say my lab? This is assuming that there is NO training, starving, neglect, etc.
I'm not arguing either way... I'm just asking if anyone has found information on that.
I know in my heart that ANY dog is going to respect the hand that feeds... I took care of a pit bull at my shop for many years before he got hit by a car, he came up to me as a stray one day... I was scared of it at first because of that stigma on Pits.. but after it realized i would feed and take care of him, he was as lovable as my lab retriever is.
There was a guy next door to me in the apt i lived in a few years back in Athens. The guy had a pitbull. He had him on a weight plan (for who knows why), got a tough looking metal chain-link choker leash for him. He would leave the dog at home about 15 hours a day. The dog would **** and crap in this guy's apartment while he neglected to take him out. He would lock him in a room when he wouldnt stop barking because he just wanted to go outside. One day... the dog figured out he could go through the screened window (the guy would crack the windows in his apt.)... i saw the dog outside and tried to get him to come back towards the guy's apartment. The dog would get into a fighting position and rare back when i would come near him... ultimately i had to call the dog catcher on him because I wouldnt bring my dog outside in fear of him attacking my dog. Now it could have been a roth, lab, sheltie, shitzu, or whatever... but any dog treated like **** is going to act like that.
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NOT correct on the dogs. Illness or injury can cause unpredictable behaviour. This is NOT the dog's fault, but it can happen. After suffering what appeared to be a minor head injury, my grandparent's chow turned unpredictably vicious. Of course the car could be defective, the computer could experience a power surge, or the gun could be in a house fire. I understand the point you are making, but in reality there are no guarantees in life, even if you do everything right.
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I don't even know what onebadbird is trying to say. You said there was an attack by a chow, but did the person die? NO, that's the whole point. If it was a pit he would be dead. I've been bitten a few times in my life. 1 was a dobermen on my face (no reason but to walk into the room and I suppose it was HIS room), one was a black lab (come to find out the kids would hit it over the fence which is where I went to pet it), 1 was a mut (I was in the woods, it was a stray)...No pit bulls. But why? because I stear clear of pits I don't know, and even when I do know them I'm a bit more careful. My only point is I think it's fine to own them as long as you don't believe "oh they won't hurt anything" and ignore them. All I'm saying is it takes a little more caution with pits, or it should, otherwise I think you'll have a rude awakening one day.
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Thats fine and all, but that still doesnt explain why pits are in the bottom percentage for dog population, but the top dog for killing other animals and people. Thats a fact. You can call it an opinion all you want, but its the truth. Proper training helps, dont get me wrong. In the end, you can take the dog out of the fight, but you cant take the fight out of the dog.
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NOT correct on the dogs. Illness or injury can cause unpredictable behaviour. This is NOT the dog's fault, but it can happen. After suffering what appeared to be a minor head injury, my grandparent's chow turned unpredictably vicious. Of course the car could be defective, the computer could experience a power surge, or the gun could be in a house fire. I understand the point you are making, but in reality there are no guarantees in life, even if you do everything right.
It's like saying all white people are stupid, we should just ban them from our country instead of teaching them properly (I'm white by the way, it was just an example lol)
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There are lots of people that have Pits as pets. You dont ever here about them. Its just the getto gang banger rapper wanna be that you here about having pits. In 5 years you wont even here about a Pit in the Media...In the 80's it was Doberman's, in the 90's it was Rotties....now its the Pits chance. It will be something else in no time!
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However dogs do have a mind of their own and don't always do as the operator says. The other examples can't go against the user.
I don't even know what onebadbird is trying to say. You said there was an attack by a chow, but did the person die? NO, that's the whole point. If it was a pit he would be dead. I've been bitten a few times in my life. 1 was a dobermen on my face (no reason but to walk into the room and I suppose it was HIS room), one was a black lab (come to find out the kids would hit it over the fence which is where I went to pet it), 1 was a mut (I was in the woods, it was a stray)...No pit bulls. But why? because I stear clear of pits I don't know, and even when I do know them I'm a bit more careful. My only point is I think it's fine to own them as long as you don't believe "oh they won't hurt anything" and ignore them. All I'm saying is it takes a little more caution with pits, or it should, otherwise I think you'll have a rude awakening one day.
I don't even know what onebadbird is trying to say. You said there was an attack by a chow, but did the person die? NO, that's the whole point. If it was a pit he would be dead. I've been bitten a few times in my life. 1 was a dobermen on my face (no reason but to walk into the room and I suppose it was HIS room), one was a black lab (come to find out the kids would hit it over the fence which is where I went to pet it), 1 was a mut (I was in the woods, it was a stray)...No pit bulls. But why? because I stear clear of pits I don't know, and even when I do know them I'm a bit more careful. My only point is I think it's fine to own them as long as you don't believe "oh they won't hurt anything" and ignore them. All I'm saying is it takes a little more caution with pits, or it should, otherwise I think you'll have a rude awakening one day.
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what I mean, I mean...use periods sometimes, it helps.
Actually if a pit decides to attack, I think you're pretty much dead (as a kid). If it was a pit that decided to bite you and not a bloodhound you wouldn't be alive.
I'm finished with this thread. I'm just going to agree to disagree. If you read closer, I'm not saying pitts are the kill all, bad dog they are made out to be. However I do think a little extra caution is needed with them. I just hope you don't come back here in 2 years telling us how the pit decided to attack and you didn't know why.
Actually if a pit decides to attack, I think you're pretty much dead (as a kid). If it was a pit that decided to bite you and not a bloodhound you wouldn't be alive.
I'm finished with this thread. I'm just going to agree to disagree. If you read closer, I'm not saying pitts are the kill all, bad dog they are made out to be. However I do think a little extra caution is needed with them. I just hope you don't come back here in 2 years telling us how the pit decided to attack and you didn't know why.