well thanks everyone and there will b no stall, sorry. im saving up for a procharger instead, then a stall and h&c.

 

Dug this video up...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfzSPkFAdSo
Looks like you beat him by 6 cars, eh? If he ran a 12.47 and you ran a 12.2x.... there's no way that's 6 cars. By a 281 cubic inch N/A... I feel bad for you if he sprays the house down...

 

From what I can tell the mustang did spray his car and still didn't win. Correct me if I'm wrong Detoxx or Blue Thunder

 

GT does not have the bottle on it...yet. Just to clarify. The GT ran 12.0's on the bottle with the stock motor. And yes, it was built by MPH.

 

the gt was on motor when we ran, on that pass he red lighted me but i still cought him. i have headers intake and tune. he has 15,000 invested to only turn around and get beat by a stock gto.

 

as i said b4, he has $15,000 f**king dollars in his ****. id sure hope he beats me on nitrous its sad though he couldnt without it. i endd making the best past of my time runniing my car, 12.29@110 but when i ran him i only ran a 12.42

 

Don't get your panties in a wad over it... Im just clarifying for those who are only getting one side of the story... and Mike happens to be a pretty cool guy.

 

Car runs good and strong. However, the discussion of the nitrous was from when they ran after a cruise night, and Bud got pulled by the GT even on the top end. Doesn't seem right when Bud can run him down in the 1/4.

Yes, he is a nice guy, but talked a lot of smack after he beat Bud that night. Un-Cool!

I was living in Atlanta, when my car was being built to run 10's, and saw several cars coming out of MPH making some really good power. If he got charged that much from them, I would hate to see the receipts from some of the fast cars that came out of there.

 

well the guy is cool but its crazy he puts up with that set up and the money he spent to only do what he did. but its his money.

 

all that to mke what a stock camaro makes on the dyno hahahahhaha

 

How much HP does your vehicle make? As much as you run your mouth, you do have a vehicle, correct?

 

Sounds like you need to be posting up on svtperformance and not ls1tech

 

Okay let ME set the record straight since I seems to be of so much interest to ya'll. I have never sprayed Bud and if it was a problem that night that I beat him on hwy 90 then he should have said something and I would have shown that I didn't even have the bottle in the car. My car dead hooks on hwy 90 (even on nittos) and that's why I beat him, I got him out the hole. He said that I'd pull ahead on the shifts (which is an obvious sign I wasn't spraying) that is because I know how to drive a standard (that's why I my mustang's not an auto!).
When we went to the track it was my 1st time at the track with this setup EVER (new motor, clutch etc) so it's like driving someone elses car. That's not an excuse it's a fact, with more seat time I will only get faster. Yes I was on slicks (a 2 year old set of 28" slicks that killed my gearing, I have them because I'm not an NA racer) but my car wouldn't hook for ****, my 1st pass I had a 2.0 60' (3 years ago on stock control arms I was pulling 1.63. My car is easilly good for some 1.5's but my best that day was a 1.76 on slicks and a 1.83 on nittos... WOW a .07 difference). When I ran Bud I did red light, I had a .48 R/T, he pulled a nice .50 (I jumped him by .02) and he ran .02 faster so he didn't get me by a fender, yes I lost before he even took off but we crossed at the same time. So for Bud to say I red lighted AND he beat me by a fender is a lie. I have my 1/2 of the ticket if he wants to post up his for that run, I'm sure someone can do some simple match and figure out what really happened.
Not like it should matter to anyone because I never came to ya'll to borrow money but I don't have $15k in my car. I had to have my motor redone because I had a machine shop fvck it up, even after paying to have my motor built TWICE I don't have near $15k. My motor is built but the shortblock itself doesn't help much, I doubt my slight bump in compression is helping me. I built it so I could run a big shot of spray, which I will once I get some bugs worked out. I have heads, cams and some boltons which netted me a lot less power than Buds 6 liter, but like I said I built it for the spray not NA. If Bud wants to see what my cars does on the spray, I'll be happy to show him when it's ready to be sprayed. Also MPH didn't build my car, I did and ProLine built the motor.
So lets recap... Bud and I only got in 1 decent race at the track and he'll agree. His car that day ran the fastest that it ever has and this was my 1st time out, trying to learn the car and he beat me by .02.
BlueThunder- as for me talking a lot of smack the night I beat Bud... LOL. I stopped after the race to pick my daughter up and by the time I got back he was already talking. His 1st comment to me when I walked up (in front of you) was something along the lines of "Found On Road Dead" or something along those lines and I replied back with "I just handed you your *** though"... which was true. If you think that's talking smack then you don't know me very well. I think the fact that I beat him fair and square and he's going to make a stupid comment to me deserves it. Now everyone has been on here crying saying that I sprayed him....

Mike

 

for those who "think" I sprayed Bud, it's obvious when my car or any car sprays. I told Bud I wouldn't spray because I hadn't had my car tuned for the spray because I was trying to break the motor in. About 3 weeks later I took it to get it tuned and destroyed the sparkplugs (on only a 100 shot)and have not sprayed it since (this is why I said I have bugs to work out). I not only showed Bud the plugs after it happened but I also showed our friend Mark. I then ran Mark on HWY 90 and disconnected the bottle in front of him and Bud, ran Mark twice (only 1 run was a good run) and beat him both times, once was about as bad as I beat Bud on 90, the other was worse because Mark got a bad start. BTW Mark was running faster times than Bud and I when we went to the track. Bud and Mark BOTH know I didn't spray Mark and know that Marks car is faster than Buds but for some reason Bud thinks I had to spray him to beat him on 90 but didn't need to spray Mark...?
BTW here is my vid from when we sprayed the car. You can tell by the HP #'s that I was having serious problems and the plugs told the truth.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/b...yno_147129.htm

 

Granted, I did not see your race after the cruise night, but Bud told us that you were still pulling on him even on the big end. Which, sounds strange since his car seems to come around you on the big end at the track. I can definitely understand you dead hooking out of the hole, but to continue to pull on him once your rolling, just doesn't seem right. So, like you said, I told him he should have asked to look at the car as soon as you were done racing. But, he didn't. Which only left us to speculate.
As far as me saying you talked smack. I didn't hear Bud teasing you, all I heard was you saying you handed him his *** (or something similar). Then, Bud and Pops were talking about how you were saying a bunch of stuff. So, I just took that info and ran with it. Probably not the right thing to do, but I did.

Glad to hear you didn't give MPH $15K to build that motor. I knew those guys pretty well when I lived in Atlanta, and I just couldn't see that happening. So, for a built bottom end and fairly stock upper, your car moves out pretty darn good.

Now, lets and get over it.

By the way, the nitrous station is up and running. If you're interested, shoot me a pm and I'll give you my #'s.

 

That's funny. Bet he didn't like that.

Is your A/F ok? Are you getting enough fuel? Maybe a lean condition is destroying your plugs. Too much timing? Too hot of plugs?

 

I need to tap into my intake to run a water line to cool #7 & #8 down. After I do that I'll be ready to spray. as for spraying I have no reason to lie. I'm not one to try to make my car seem faster than it is, Bud and Pops can attest to that because I have always let people know my mods even when I had a stock motor I was accused of having all the boltons, headers, etc. I'd bring a flashlight and let everyone inspect my car. I had/ have nothing to hide.
I will be the 1st to admit, I've done my fair share of **** talking in the past but that night wasn't one of them (atleast I didn't think so). And yes, Bud should have asked me then so there wouldn't be all this speculation.
Tim Lynch at proLine Race engines built my motor, ProLine were that ones that built motors for MPH. Tim from MPH made me a set of custom cams though.

 

Yep, I know Tim Lynch. We used hang out on Barrett Pkwy in Atlanta. He has always had some AWESOME Machines!!!!!!

 

yes it's lean on the spray. MPH wasn't tuning it BTW, I took it to JMS. I don't know what the timing is on the spray, I think NA was 26*. I'm running NGK TR6's gapped at .035". The initial hit on the spray went to 15.08:1, the next run got to 13.6:1. I'm going to do the cooling mod, put in the next size bigger fuel jet and go back to JMS to try it again.
on a 100 shot it should be 11.6-12:1 the 150 should be 11-11.2:1

 

see if people knew 1/2 the problems I went through (with getting screwed over by the 1st shop and my car sitting up for nearly a year), it's foolish to even think I'd spray it without having a N2O tune on it. That's why I don't see why it's so hard to believe...
I don't think Pops was upset, he was pretty cool about it. It was done in fun. Like I said the 1st run wasn't much of a run because he got a bad start. He's got a fast car. I'm trying to figure out why it runs what it does without the bottle... but I wouldn't come on to a public forum accusing him of spraying just because it's faster than it should be.