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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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The most recent addition of the Camaro White Book does not show any production data on these cars. All the other GMMG cars are listed in the Addendas at the back of the book.

Does anyone have accurate numbers on the Blackbirds?
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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Unless I'm wrong, there's a reason they wouldn't be in the Camaro White Book, as the Blackbirds were based on the Trans Am platform.
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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NC GUY,
I just posted them under the carfax for blackbird listing

here they are again
50 Blackbirds (various colors ('01 & '02)
10 Year One Editions (all silver 02s? I think)
6 Collector Editions (all yellow 02s)
17 Anniversary Editions (various colors) -- I have #8 SOM 380hp
all 6 sp. I believe -- rumors of #18 & #19 Ann. Ed. one w/ AT haven't really confirmed
not sure if these #s count protypes
The Ann. Ed. cars have the same 200S Am. Racing wheels as your Intimidator
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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Forgot to ask what does it say in the Camaro White Book about the Bergers, Intimidators, & Tom Henry SS cars --values?
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 2002yroneformula
Unless I'm wrong, there's a reason they wouldn't be in the Camaro White Book, as the Blackbirds were based on the Trans Am platform.

Smart ***!

Rember guys to take the info in the white books with a grain of salt as there are some errors in it. Plus with so many 4th gen owners taking their ZL-1's, Berger SS, HOTROD, Brickyard, and Anniversary cars back to GMMG for hp package upgrades the exact information is constantly changing.
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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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Smart ***!
Wasn't trying to be. Just asking a serious question as this is the first time I've heard about this book. Definately agree on the cars continually going back in for upgrades though. I know my buddy's dad in savannah is planning to take his car back in for the phase II in a few months last I heard.
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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[QUOTE=SOMBlackbird]NC GUY,
I just posted them under the carfax for blackbird listing

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Thanks for the numbers SOM. I reckon it was just wishfull thinking on my part that the Blackbirds might be included with the GMMG cars in the Camaro White Book. Obviously, they are Firebird based cars and will not be listed in a Camaro reference book. My mistake!

By all means, enjoy your car!
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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NC GUY,

What does it say in the White Book about the Intimidators & Berger cars? Do it refer to value, production #s or what? Like to know for future reference. Thanks
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my mistake -- DOES it refer ?
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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NC GUY,

What does it say in the White Book about the Intimidators & Berger cars? Do it refer to value, production #s or what? Like to know for future reference. Thanks
The most recent edition shows the Camaros that GMMG converted as of the book's publication date in 2003. Included are the Berger, Intimidator, Tom Henry, Performance Edition, Hot Rod, and the ZL1 Supercars. The production counts are broken down by color, manual or auto, coupe/convert/T-Top etc.... The original selling dealers are also listed. It does NOT list original selling price or current values. The #'s were supplied by Matt M. I consider it a very interesting and useful reference book.

I bought a batch of the books for the local Camaro club I belong to. I've got 3 new copies left that I'll sell for my cost..$12 plus shipping. They retail for $17. Drop me a email if you're interested.

If anyone else wants a new copy, drop me a email as well.

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