ws6 formula rare?
There are some canadian versions that are extremely rare
Bottom line: If the right buyer wants a specific model/year/color/option package then the sky is the limit on resale, but right now ppl aren't HOT after any of these collectible editions IMO.
PERHAPS in time, but probably not in my lifetime. Personally, I didn't by the HAWK for re-sale. I wanted one for 10 years and bit the bullet to get one in the very last year of production which explains why so many were built.
I have the write-up from Pontiac mag, and in the 11 year history (10 years of production) SLP only made a total of approx 5000 Firehawks. Be that as it may, it is still a T/A w/interchangeable parts EXCEPT SLP badging/decals and upfitted accessories.
SLP had a good niche until GM pulled the plug
Bottom line: If the right buyer wants a specific model/year/color/option package then the sky is the limit on resale, but right now ppl aren't HOT after any of these collectible editions IMO.
PERHAPS in time, but probably not in my lifetime. Personally, I didn't by the HAWK for re-sale. I wanted one for 10 years and bit the bullet to get one in the very last year of production which explains why so many were built.
I have the write-up from Pontiac mag, and in the 11 year history (10 years of production) SLP only made a total of approx 5000 Firehawks. Be that as it may, it is still a T/A w/interchangeable parts EXCEPT SLP badging/decals and upfitted accessories.
SLP had a good niche until GM pulled the plug
Last edited by Firehawk526; Dec 30, 2005 at 10:30 PM.
Originally Posted by Dan
Does a color of a car really make it rare? Will a collector buy it because there are 12 made & pay top dollar for it?
4th Gen F-bodies are not old enough for them to be really "collectible" at this point, but one day they will be "classics" and when that day comes I'm still gonna own the ones I have now. Anything about a car that sets it apart from others will make it more desirable to a collector.
Originally Posted by Dan
Is there anything else different about the car except the color from other "Normal Production" F-Bodies(drivetrain, Special Features)?
Originally Posted by Dan
I am not familiar with the purple F-Bodies, Were they only built in 98? I am not trying to be an azz, But I see millions of posts on here of cars being rare, What constitutes rare?
What constitutes rare? I'd say if there's less than 50 of a particular car, it's rare, less than 20 is definitely rare. I'd say my Formula is fairly rare, and my WS6 definitely is.
Originally Posted by Dan
I guess I am partial to my car, & will say the Anniversary cars are worth more than the run of the mill production cars, And my car aint worth ****..maybe if I had 5 miles on it & put it away, didn't enjoy it, take it out in 30 years, think I could I get 100g's for it?
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Well i think the way u say a car is rare by numbers given seem a lil off.... there were only 547 GNX gran natis. made ever, Is this RARE? YES, i have a 99 Z NBM Hardtop,Sport Appearance pack. with WHITE leather with hurst 6 speed,chrome wheels ,,, Very RARE i think there was only 25 White leather NBM and then even fewer hardtops! id say thats rare. Is it worth anymore right now? Nope , but maybe someday
Originally Posted by Dan
I say, who cares if it's rare, most f-body's (4th gen's)are not worth anything.
SOM cars are usually worth more than others because in most years it is the rarest color there is. There is only 1 silver Firehawk vert A4 in the WOLRD. You think its not rare since its the only one with that color?
Dude, I have not seen anywhere where a USED 02 F-Body is going(Sold) for new prices..Give me some links because I have to see it to believe it..So you are telling me a used WS.6 is going for over 30k used? I have seen people selling for those prices but they are not getting it..
Last edited by Dan; Dec 31, 2005 at 05:21 PM. Reason: added text
Originally Posted by brynnda
wow. talk about doing some homework.
i had a 1990 ws6 formula, only 1,087 made, but they do exist. ws6 formulas have been around a lot longer that that...
i had a 1990 ws6 formula, only 1,087 made, but they do exist. ws6 formulas have been around a lot longer that that...
He was talking about his 2000, and since his car is a late model 4th gen (98-02), I figured he was asking how rare it was when comparing it to others like it. Not 93-97, or even a complete different gen!
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A lot of people here are confusing rare combinations with rare cars. So what if your car is one of 4 black WS6 convertibles with a purple top, green leather, an automatic transmission, and power windows? That doesn't make it more or less valuable than the 3,000 black WS6s they made with other combinations. Real rarity involves model type, engine options, transmission options, and t-top/convertible/hardtop configuration, and to a much lesser extent, color and production year, and thats it. When you start factoring in every option you have in the car, almost any car is going to be "rare". If there were only 3 WS6 Trans Am 6-speed convertibles in a given year, thats rare. But 3 white WS6 Trans Am convertibles with a 6-speed, black leather, white top, painted wheels, and a cassette player, that isn't rare.
I will admit DrEvyl's purple cars are badass though...
I will admit DrEvyl's purple cars are badass though...
Originally Posted by jeffg9203
I have a white 2000 firebird formula ws6. It has a hard top and is an m6. Does anybody know the number of these cars made?
The reason i ask is because i have never seen any type of formula ws6 and just got curious.
Also, does the color, hardtop or transmission make it more rare?
The reason i ask is because i have never seen any type of formula ws6 and just got curious.
Also, does the color, hardtop or transmission make it more rare?
do the formula WS6's also have the raised spoiler, ram air hood? correct me if i'm wrong but a regular formula basically looks like a v6 with an ls1 dropped in it right? and someone said they were faster than the vette's what did the engine have done that a trans am ws6 of the same year did not have ? sorry this is off topic
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Originally Posted by 99camarosupersport
do the formula WS6's also have the raised spoiler, ram air hood? correct me if i'm wrong but a regular formula basically looks like a v6 with an ls1 dropped in it right? and someone said they were faster than the vette's what did the engine have done that a trans am ws6 of the same year did not have ? sorry this is off topic
Formula Firehawks in the LT1 years (93-97) sometimes had the same raised spoiler as the Trans Am. No LS1 Formula (98-02) came with the raised spoiler.
You are right about the Formula- the only ways to cosmetically tell it apart from the V6 Firebird is the dual exhaust outlets, Formula side badging, and "torqued" wheels. The LT1 years also had a completely black rear center panel between the tail lights, as well as different taillight covers than the V6.
Originally Posted by 99camarosupersport
do the formula WS6's also have the raised spoiler, ram air hood? correct me if i'm wrong but a regular formula basically looks like a v6 with an ls1 dropped in it right? and someone said they were faster than the vette's what did the engine have done that a trans am ws6 of the same year did not have ? sorry this is off topic
yeah i know they had the same engine ( except for the zo6 with the ls6, basically the same though ) but stock for stock off the floor i think the SS's claimed 325, while c5's were around 350ish 
so from how i read it that would mean ( besides gmmg's etc. ) this was the fastest f-body produced?
edit: my friend has a v6 firebird, and it has the dual tip outlets ( valance, and dual tips ) and i've seen dual outlets on the valance with a single downpipe also. i guess a formula would be one heck of a sleeper car.
so from how i read it that would mean ( besides gmmg's etc. ) this was the fastest f-body produced?edit: my friend has a v6 firebird, and it has the dual tip outlets ( valance, and dual tips ) and i've seen dual outlets on the valance with a single downpipe also. i guess a formula would be one heck of a sleeper car.
Well it took me the better part of 4 months to even find a 2000-2001 formula HARDTOP A4 car i seen a few M6s and the rest are 6 bangers for sale... so i can say YES they are rare and if you want a T-top car just look down your street those are EVERYWHERE i been buying and selling cars for over the last 10 years for a living and this Formula was one of the harder ones to locate 
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Originally Posted by 99camarosupersport
yeah i know they had the same engine ( except for the zo6 with the ls6, basically the same though ) but stock for stock off the floor i think the SS's claimed 325, while c5's were around 350ish so from how i read it that would mean ( besides gmmg's etc. ) this was the fastest f-body produced?
edit: my friend has a v6 firebird, and it has the dual tip outlets ( valance, and dual tips ) and i've seen dual outlets on the valance with a single downpipe also. i guess a formula would be one heck of a sleeper car.
so from how i read it that would mean ( besides gmmg's etc. ) this was the fastest f-body produced?edit: my friend has a v6 firebird, and it has the dual tip outlets ( valance, and dual tips ) and i've seen dual outlets on the valance with a single downpipe also. i guess a formula would be one heck of a sleeper car.
Originally Posted by Dan
Bring it to the Barrett Jackson Auction & see how much you can get for that "hardtop" Formula
These 4th gens have NO value now but neither did my 87 GN my 91 Syclone or my 72 Chevelle with a big block i paid $800 for when i was 17 i bought all these cheap many years ago when nobody even really looked at them and there were plenty around to buy ...hell even my 93 mustang coupe is getting harder to find in excellent condition which is hard to believe Ford only made a million of them but try to find a nice one that a kid didn't destroy or cut up