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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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I'm looking at possibly purchasing a Blackbird, but I don't really want to pay too much more than what they went for new,(It's practically new still). I feel that they aren’t old enough yet to start appreciating, but I have no idea what they went for new, If anyone has any idea, please chime in as I would like to make the guy a fair offer, thanks.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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I'm looking at possibly purchasing a Blackbird, but I don't really want to pay too much more than what they went for new,(It's practically new still). I feel that they aren’t old enough yet to start appreciating, but I have no idea what they went for new, If anyone has any idea, please chime in as I would like to make the guy a fair offer, thanks.
6 Speed TTOP BB went for about $40,600.00 & a convertible went for about $4,000.00 more.

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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GMMG, Inc.
6 Speed TTOP BB went for about $40,600.00 & a convertible went for about $4,000,00 more.
Thanks allot, the one I'm looking at the guys wants 55k for which I thought was outrageous, but now I know it's outrageous

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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even if he is asking to much, that is a HOT car...wouldnt mind owning that myself!
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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That's a 35th anniversary T/A,not a Blackbird.It's a little confusing as GMMG made nineteen 35th's after the production run of 50 BB'S ended.Easiest way to tell the diff is BB's came with TT2's,35th's had Daisy ARE's.That car has the early stage II package,later one's were much nastier..

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There is member here selling his Rally Red 35th Anni base package car, it has under 2k mile and is anaseptic.I think he wants well under that chaps price if you are interested pm me for his #
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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That's a 35th anniversary T/A,not a Blackbird.It's a little confusing as GMMG made nineteen 35th's after the production run of 50 BB'S ended.Easiest way to tell the diff is BB's came with TT2's,35th's had Daisy ARE's.That car has the early stage II package,later one's were much nastier..
Can you tell me what a TT2 is and what a Daisy ARE is? A little first post ignorance going on here.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 07:50 PM
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That car sold new for just a couple of dollars short of 54K. Hope this helps. It is not my car, but I have ridden in it. Impressive.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 07:50 PM
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TT2's are the rims torque thrusts, and the daisy's are the rims that came on the Earnhart SS's if Im not mistake.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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As stated above this car stickered for 53k and some change. With 4400 miles the asking price of 55k is not unreasonable.(find another one)
Also anyone serious about the car would make an offer on that amount not just hang up and figure its out of their range.
This is a very special car that has will still have meat on the bone in the years to come.

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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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[QUOTE=bigboyz]As stated above this car stickered for 53k and some change. With 4400 miles the asking price of 55k is not unreasonable.(find another one)
Also anyone serious about the car would make an offer on that amount not just hang up and figure its out of their range.
This is a very special car that has will still have meat on the bone in the years to come.

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Hey Steve,

Yes I agree this car is a very special car, but just to clear things up, I never called you, so to insinuate that I heard the offer and hung up is not true. I am the one that took the bid from 12k to 20k and then I emailed you your asking price, I am still interested, just currently doing my research as would anyone willing to pay that kind of money. Also in the process of my research I linked your add to the biggest LS1 enthusiast website in the world, so at best your add will get the attention that it deserves.

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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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Ive had many calls on this car and didnt mean to say that you're one of the people that were blew away w/ the asking amount.
I believe this car will sell in the next week or so and will be worth the amount paid for the car. Even with a dipping market the right cars still command the premium money.
Steve
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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Phase 2 added about $8,000 to the purchase price. Phase 2's are fun, love mine!
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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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Thought Id come back and let everyone know that this car has sold and was in the ball park of what we wanted out of the car. There was only 2 cars ever produced like this car and the investment value will continue to increase.
Now I need to get back to old cars.... like the one below

http://www.bigboyztoyz69.com/cpg/thu...s.php?album=93

Thanks All

Steve
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The car's performance is very impressive, doing 0 to 60 mph in just 4.40 seconds, and turning the quarter mile in 12.87 seconds at 111 mph. The cat back chambered exhaust system provides increased horsepower and delivers an impressive note reminiscent of the late 1960's muscle cars. The under-drive performance pulley system delivers 337 horsepower to the rear wheels. The dimpled rotors add additional cooling for the 4-wheel disc brakes, and the lowered suspension offers improved handling and control.

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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Was the Eiback Pro-kit what came on the blackbird?
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Originally Posted by JuniorWS6
Was the Eiback Pro-kit what came on the blackbird?
The Blackbirds were equipped with GMMG spec. Eibach progressive rate lowering springs - NOT the same kit as the standard Eibach Pro-Kit you can buy from just anywhere. The GMMG spec. Eibach springs have different specifications and spring rates than the standard Eibach Pro-kit springs. I am not sure but I also believe the GMMG spec. springs have less drop than the standard Pro-kit - the GMMG springs lower the vehicle around an 1-1/4" not 1.5" as advertised.

You can contact Matt Murphy at GMMG directly and he can give you the part number for them, as it is not advertised.

Hope this helps you out!

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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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It Was an Eiback Pro Kit that was specially Made for GMMG. The Part Number I Have is #GMMG3831.140
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Old Nov 7, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JustLucky
The Blackbirds were equipped with GMMG spec. Eibach progressive rate lowering springs - NOT the same kit as the standard Eibach Pro-Kit you can buy from just anywhere. The GMMG spec. Eibach springs have different specifications and spring rates than the standard Eibach Pro-kit springs. I am not sure but I also believe the GMMG spec. springs have less drop than the standard Pro-kit - the GMMG springs lower the vehicle around an 1-1/4" not 1.5" as advertised.

You can contact Matt Murphy at GMMG directly and he can give you the part number for them, as it is not advertised.

Hope this helps you out!
Thanks helped out alot.
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There's a NBM one on Ebay this week, ..., Buy this one instead, ...
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