Longblock Wanted
03-13-2005, 02:56 PM
#1
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Longblock Wanted All, I've been doing for the past few days is e-mailing and researching longblock prices. From stock cubes to 408's.
One thing that you have to keep in mind is that I live very, very far from the US.
Shipping individual items is way expensive. I work for an airline Co. and with 75% discounts on cargo, it will still cost me $600 to ship this longblock.
The best so far is like I've stated, an LS6 longblock (no core and allready crated) $5280.00 and that includes cam, p-rods, rockers, timing chain, oil pump etc. All i have to do is slap another cam in, (918's, p-rods that I allready have) and I have a 420rwhp potential motor. (I made 404rwhp with LS1, Stealth II and bolt ons)
So $5700 + shipping and the motor goes in.
402/408 iron will be more like $8K+ ship.
The thing is, I've seen longblocks 346, for as much as follows:
Shortblock $2775
Core $800
heads 5.3 stage 2 (300 cfm) $1500
cam $400
Timing chain $85 (Rollmaster single)
oil pump $130
Cometics .045 $145 for both
GM H bolts $35
Crate $100
Assembly $300
Total $6270 (I rounded off, so +/- 20)
That is ~$600 difference for a similar potential motor ~420rwhp and I'll have to reuse my Comp p-rods, stock rockers (55K miles) plus some other minor gaskets and wait 3-4 weeks for build up.
Sure it will be a little sturdier (ARP rod bolts and forged pistons).
Would it be more reliable than the LS6+ cam motor NA?, probably the same when built properly.
So if a sponsor (FMS,APE,LME,HPE,MTI,TSP) can offer me a 346 (or 370
) longblock as above for ~$5800 fully assembled, crated and ready to go, I'm all ears.
Just a couple of things please (NO PP heads), min 10.5:1 SCR (11:1 preferred), .035 quench & a traditional split cam 230 range 114 lsa (a little bigger if 370)
mark.habib@emirates.com
I give it 1 more week then I make my decision.
Thanks to all that have commented and to the sponsors that are willing to work with me on this.
Mark
One thing that you have to keep in mind is that I live very, very far from the US.
Shipping individual items is way expensive. I work for an airline Co. and with 75% discounts on cargo, it will still cost me $600 to ship this longblock.
The best so far is like I've stated, an LS6 longblock (no core and allready crated) $5280.00 and that includes cam, p-rods, rockers, timing chain, oil pump etc. All i have to do is slap another cam in, (918's, p-rods that I allready have) and I have a 420rwhp potential motor. (I made 404rwhp with LS1, Stealth II and bolt ons)
So $5700 + shipping and the motor goes in.
402/408 iron will be more like $8K+ ship.
The thing is, I've seen longblocks 346, for as much as follows:
Shortblock $2775
Core $800
heads 5.3 stage 2 (300 cfm) $1500
cam $400
Timing chain $85 (Rollmaster single)
oil pump $130
Cometics .045 $145 for both
GM H bolts $35
Crate $100
Assembly $300
Total $6270 (I rounded off, so +/- 20)
That is ~$600 difference for a similar potential motor ~420rwhp and I'll have to reuse my Comp p-rods, stock rockers (55K miles) plus some other minor gaskets and wait 3-4 weeks for build up.
Sure it will be a little sturdier (ARP rod bolts and forged pistons).
Would it be more reliable than the LS6+ cam motor NA?, probably the same when built properly.
So if a sponsor (FMS,APE,LME,HPE,MTI,TSP) can offer me a 346 (or 370
) longblock as above for ~$5800 fully assembled, crated and ready to go, I'm all ears.Just a couple of things please (NO PP heads), min 10.5:1 SCR (11:1 preferred), .035 quench & a traditional split cam 230 range 114 lsa (a little bigger if 370)
mark.habib@emirates.com
I give it 1 more week then I make my decision.
Thanks to all that have commented and to the sponsors that are willing to work with me on this.
Mark
03-14-2005, 08:25 AM
#2
Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
All, I've been doing for the past few days is e-mailing and researching longblock prices. From stock cubes to 408's.
One thing that you have to keep in mind is that I live very, very far from the US.
Shipping individual items is way expensive. I work for an airline Co. and with 75% discounts on cargo, it will still cost me $600 to ship this longblock.
The best so far is like I've stated, an LS6 longblock (no core and allready crated) $5280.00 and that includes cam, p-rods, rockers, timing chain, oil pump etc. All i have to do is slap another cam in, (918's, p-rods that I allready have) and I have a 420rwhp potential motor. (I made 404rwhp with LS1, Stealth II and bolt ons)
So $5700 + shipping and the motor goes in.
402/408 iron will be more like $8K+ ship.
The thing is, I've seen longblocks 346, for as much as follows:
Shortblock $2775
Core $800
heads 5.3 stage 2 (300 cfm) $1500
cam $400
Timing chain $85 (Rollmaster single)
oil pump $130
Cometics .045 $145 for both
GM H bolts $35
Crate $100
Assembly $300
Total $6270 (I rounded off, so +/- 20)
That is ~$600 difference for a similar potential motor ~420rwhp and I'll have to reuse my Comp p-rods, stock rockers (55K miles) plus some other minor gaskets and wait 3-4 weeks for build up.
Sure it will be a little sturdier (ARP rod bolts and forged pistons).
Would it be more reliable than the LS6+ cam motor NA?, probably the same when built properly.
So if a sponsor (FMS,APE,LME,HPE,MTI,TSP) can offer me a 346 (or 370) longblock as above for ~$5800 fully assembled, crated and ready to go, I'm all ears.
Just a couple of things please (NO PP heads), min 10.5:1 SCR (11:1 preferred), .035 quench & a traditional split cam 230 range 114 lsa (a little bigger if 370)
mark.habib@emirates.com
I give it 1 more week then I make my decision.
Thanks to all that have commented and to the sponsors that are willing to work with me on this.
Mark
One thing that you have to keep in mind is that I live very, very far from the US.
Shipping individual items is way expensive. I work for an airline Co. and with 75% discounts on cargo, it will still cost me $600 to ship this longblock.
The best so far is like I've stated, an LS6 longblock (no core and allready crated) $5280.00 and that includes cam, p-rods, rockers, timing chain, oil pump etc. All i have to do is slap another cam in, (918's, p-rods that I allready have) and I have a 420rwhp potential motor. (I made 404rwhp with LS1, Stealth II and bolt ons)
So $5700 + shipping and the motor goes in.
402/408 iron will be more like $8K+ ship.
The thing is, I've seen longblocks 346, for as much as follows:
Shortblock $2775
Core $800
heads 5.3 stage 2 (300 cfm) $1500
cam $400
Timing chain $85 (Rollmaster single)
oil pump $130
Cometics .045 $145 for both
GM H bolts $35
Crate $100
Assembly $300
Total $6270 (I rounded off, so +/- 20)
That is ~$600 difference for a similar potential motor ~420rwhp and I'll have to reuse my Comp p-rods, stock rockers (55K miles) plus some other minor gaskets and wait 3-4 weeks for build up.
Sure it will be a little sturdier (ARP rod bolts and forged pistons).
Would it be more reliable than the LS6+ cam motor NA?, probably the same when built properly.
So if a sponsor (FMS,APE,LME,HPE,MTI,TSP) can offer me a 346 (or 370
) longblock as above for ~$5800 fully assembled, crated and ready to go, I'm all ears.Just a couple of things please (NO PP heads), min 10.5:1 SCR (11:1 preferred), .035 quench & a traditional split cam 230 range 114 lsa (a little bigger if 370)
mark.habib@emirates.com
I give it 1 more week then I make my decision.
Thanks to all that have commented and to the sponsors that are willing to work with me on this.
Mark