Stock C6 Z06 vs 550 rwhp Supra
03-12-2009, 02:05 PM
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Yes definitely the catastrophic kind, a lot of things can go wrong in a NA engine but short of a rod through the block, you don't have to get a whole new engine.
03-12-2009, 04:07 PM
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Posting random youtube videos is useless IMO. . unless you were there or own one of the vehicles then you honestly have no idea what any of the cars setups were, or the conditions of the races or the drivers. . pretty much nothing. I'm sure I can find a video of a gremlin beating a c6z or a supra if I wanted. . I guess that means gremlins are faster than both.
The Supra wasn't tuned well... listen careully you can hear it pop and grown. The velocities at which the races began were not advantageous to the Supra but very fortunate for me... don't forget, I can do 100 kph in 1st gear. Plus, I've been racing competitively for a while, my SS is a faceplated 6-speed car, I've been banging gears a lot longer than my friend in the Supra. He's a nice guy, very humble, and in his defense if we had started in his sweet zone it would have taken me a few seconds to catch up and then pass him
The Z06 in my opinion (and I've driven everything from Viper to Ferrari) is a great car, low weight, lots of everyday usability for a "supercar" and bloody cheap when compared to what else gets you that kind of go.
So... WhitePhoenix99, hopefully this helps.
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Its either Canada, or England. So which is it?
03-12-2009, 05:33 PM
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Posting random youtube videos is useless IMO. . unless you were there or own one of the vehicles then you honestly have no idea what any of the cars setups were, or the conditions of the races or the drivers. . pretty much nothing. I'm sure I can find a video of a gremlin beating a c6z or a supra if I wanted. . I guess that means gremlins are faster than both.
03-12-2009, 06:13 PM
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If you want to get technical, you need to compare
1. Weight of vehicles
2. rwhp...maybe, how the power is delivered for sure... linear and flat vs...
3. The gearing
4. Aerodynamics to a smaller extent (we never got over 260kph)
5. Driver familiarity of the vehicle.
As an example, my SS on motor makes 65 less rwhp then the Z06, it weighs 300 lbs more but is .5 sec quicker in the quarter at the only 2 mph less. The car is made to do one thing... accelerate from 0 really quickly. The irony of this all... the SS still gets over 30 mpg on the highway... gotta love a manual.
03-12-2009, 10:13 PM
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You're absolutely right... not only do I own that Z06... the handsome guy driving is me... and I also picked the gay music...lol
The Supra wasn't tuned well... listen careully you can hear it pop and grown. The velocities at which the races began were not advantageous to the Supra but very fortunate for me... don't forget, I can do 100 kph in 1st gear. Plus, I've been racing competitively for a while, my SS is a faceplated 6-speed car, I've been banging gears a lot longer than my friend in the Supra. He's a nice guy, very humble, and in his defense if we had started in his sweet zone it would have taken me a few seconds to catch up and then pass him
The Z06 in my opinion (and I've driven everything from Viper to Ferrari) is a great car, low weight, lots of everyday usability for a "supercar" and bloody cheap when compared to what else gets you that kind of go.
So... WhitePhoenix99, hopefully this helps.
The Supra wasn't tuned well... listen careully you can hear it pop and grown. The velocities at which the races began were not advantageous to the Supra but very fortunate for me... don't forget, I can do 100 kph in 1st gear. Plus, I've been racing competitively for a while, my SS is a faceplated 6-speed car, I've been banging gears a lot longer than my friend in the Supra. He's a nice guy, very humble, and in his defense if we had started in his sweet zone it would have taken me a few seconds to catch up and then pass him
The Z06 in my opinion (and I've driven everything from Viper to Ferrari) is a great car, low weight, lots of everyday usability for a "supercar" and bloody cheap when compared to what else gets you that kind of go.
So... WhitePhoenix99, hopefully this helps.
. Any plans for mods??
03-12-2009, 10:17 PM
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The guy even said it was badly tuned, you can hear how horrible the tune was. You can put down 550 and you car will still run like dogshit if its not a very good tune. And unless you didn't watch the video you can see how poorly the driver did as well.
03-12-2009, 10:34 PM
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Your car can run like **** bog down 18 different times and still put out 550hp lol. Like your car dies all the time but put it on a dyno it will make a hp number lol. But hey I am probably wrong since you are always, ALWAYS right.
03-12-2009, 10:47 PM
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LOL. . my car dies because the fuel pump is about done. So no it wouldn't put down the same # on the dyno with a bad fuel pump. You seem to be talking about driveability with your "tuning" argument. . The supra put down what it put down, period. But it lost. . no point in the ricer excuses. If the driver thinks a retune will help that much then he should tune it and run again to see.
03-12-2009, 10:55 PM
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LOL. . my car dies because the fuel pump is about done. So no it wouldn't put down the same # on the dyno with a bad fuel pump. You seem to be talking about driveability with your "tuning" argument. . The supra put down what it put down, period. But it lost. . no point in the ricer excuses. If the driver thinks a retune will help that much then he should tune it and run again to see.
In my video a z06 loses, it put down what it put down, and lost period. No mulletenraged excuses.
03-12-2009, 11:00 PM
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This video, you shouldn't even be watching since you don't know both platforms, drivers, or anything else for that matter. You already said these random videos are pointless. Ricer excuses.....the OP said it had a bad tune and unless your blind you can tell it is a horrible driver.
In my video a z06 loses, it put down what it put down, and lost period. No mulletenraged excuses.
In my video a z06 loses, it put down what it put down, and lost period. No mulletenraged excuses.
03-12-2009, 11:06 PM
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Haha. . no I said ppl shouldn't post random videos they don't know anything about. Like you did. The op was the driver of the c6z so I think he has every right to post it. And I believe what he meant by "bad tune" is that the supra still has some hp left in it with a better tune. Not that it runs like ****. Any more pointless arguments you would like to add? lol
03-12-2009, 11:10 PM
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Yes one being that my videos aren't random they were searched for specifically. Also you do not know the op, he has the right to post it but you don't know whats up with either car or either driver. But hey I guess my videos don't count. And by bad tune, after that he said it still makes some noises, he didn't say it has more hp in it. Any car with a better or different tune has more hp in it. Like I said I have seen cars with big hp have bad tunes at a track and immediately not be able to launch or their **** bogs down. And as I have stated, that driver sucks a big one.
03-12-2009, 11:25 PM
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and do is due....
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Haha. . no I said ppl shouldn't post random videos they don't know anything about. Like you did. The op was the driver of the c6z so I think he has every right to post it. And I believe what he meant by "bad tune" is that the supra still has some hp left in it with a better tune. Not that it runs like ****. Any more pointless arguments you would like to add? lol
As for the vid its a good kill.. I respect the Z06 for what it is.. Id still rather wait a few years and buy a GTR
and you can plainly hear/see the Supra's need of a better tune and a better driver. There are vids all over youtube of cars that shouldn't be logically faster than other cars but it happens. If you enough determination and money you can make anything fast, and faster than something else.