Who said an 02 H/C fbody could beat an 02-04 Z06?
11-08-2003, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by xphantomws6x
Flynlow ... I would definately assume that the Z would have the advantage from the stop, which is why I cannot figure out why you 2 would run dead even from a roll, which I would think would be the WS6's strong point.
Z06's launch hard, and all the ones I have raced have beat me out of the hole, but I have managed to make up some ground/edge out in the end. The ones I have raced from a highway roll it seems I have the advantage.
Maybe you're just a much better driver then the guys I have raced ??
Z06's launch hard, and all the ones I have raced have beat me out of the hole, but I have managed to make up some ground/edge out in the end. The ones I have raced from a highway roll it seems I have the advantage.
Maybe you're just a much better driver then the guys I have raced ??
While I don't consider myself a great driver, I do know where the power is at on the LS6 and I try my damndest to make sure I get every bit of it.
11-08-2003, 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FLYNLO
Weight and gearing are probably the best answer...
Ask John (U LUZ) about are little run on the freeway. He had a pulley and airbox (I think), and I was running untuned.
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11-08-2003, 08:39 AM
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A 996 Porsche 911 Turbo will be beaten in almost every objective performance category by a Z06. The magazines have done this bit to death.
If you own the Z06 you'll own the Porsche as well.
If you own the Z06 you'll own the Porsche as well.
11-08-2003, 07:02 PM
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you could order a standard turbo 911 with the X-50 package which boosts power up to 450bhp. A close friend of mine has it on his 911.......very worth the extra cash in my opinion....really wakes up the car!
11-08-2003, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike 01WS6
you could order a standard turbo 911 with the X-50 package which boosts power up to 450bhp. A close friend of mine has it on his 911.......very worth the extra cash in my opinion....really wakes up the car!
11-09-2003, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike 01WS6
....very worth the extra cash in my opinion....really wakes up the car!
As far as pulling a car goes.....if you have 2 identical cars, one with 50 more rwhp, that is not that big of a difference when you are talking about to fairly fast cars. If you wanna just wax someone, you are gonna have to be about 150rwhp more for it to be a rapin'.
11-09-2003, 11:31 AM
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Yeah, I agree with flyno there. That is not a big enough difference on cars like that. Though, its not 50rwhp difference is it? I thought it was 50hp extra at the flywheel. 
11-09-2003, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYNLO
And that is a VERY relative statement. You are already paying 120 grand for that car....and then they want more. They are awesome cars but that is a lot of cash.
As far as pulling a car goes.....if you have 2 identical cars, one with 50 more rwhp, that is not that big of a difference when you are talking about to fairly fast cars. If you wanna just wax someone, you are gonna have to be about 150rwhp more for it to be a rapin'.
As far as pulling a car goes.....if you have 2 identical cars, one with 50 more rwhp, that is not that big of a difference when you are talking about to fairly fast cars. If you wanna just wax someone, you are gonna have to be about 150rwhp more for it to be a rapin'.
We are not talking about more peak horsepower.....that doesn't get you ****. We all know that. But what we are talking about is more area under the curve. The new turbos spool up quicker and provide boost earlier creating more torque down low and much more of an impact during the entire rpm range.
I gotta video of his car racing a stock 911 TT on Gingerman Raceway (road course) Both cars have the same tires and suspension, but you can see in the video that the X-50 smokes the stock TT hands down! If i can find the vid on my camera i will try to upload it.
11-09-2003, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike 01WS6
FLYNLO, try riding in them both. You will notice a DEFINATE seat of the pants difference. With the upgraded ball bearing turbos and other modifactions it sure as hell feels a lot different!
We are not talking about more peak horsepower.....that doesn't get you ****. We all know that. But what we are talking about is more area under the curve. The new turbos spool up quicker and provide boost earlier creating more torque down low and much more of an impact during the entire rpm range.
I gotta video of his car racing a stock 911 TT on Gingerman Raceway (road course) Both cars have the same tires and suspension, but you can see in the video that the X-50 smokes the stock TT hands down! If i can find the vid on my camera i will try to upload it.
We are not talking about more peak horsepower.....that doesn't get you ****. We all know that. But what we are talking about is more area under the curve. The new turbos spool up quicker and provide boost earlier creating more torque down low and much more of an impact during the entire rpm range.
I gotta video of his car racing a stock 911 TT on Gingerman Raceway (road course) Both cars have the same tires and suspension, but you can see in the video that the X-50 smokes the stock TT hands down! If i can find the vid on my camera i will try to upload it.
11-09-2003, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYNLO
As far as pulling a car goes.....if you have 2 identical cars, one with 50 more rwhp, that is not that big of a difference when you are talking about to fairly fast cars. If you wanna just wax someone, you are gonna have to be about 150rwhp more for it to be a rapin'.
The rapin gets less and less the more horsepower you have. i.e. Two vipers one with 950rwhp and one with 800rwhp. There is not gonna be as big a difference as with a 300 rwhp trans am and a 450rwhp camaro. The percentages of horsepower are different. The trans am only has 66% of the hp the camaro does where as the viper with the lesser hp is witin 84% of the more powerful one.
11-09-2003, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MillaTK
Yes please do. I would love to see it. GO PORSCHE... wait, this is an american car site... I better shut up now...
, and i will tell you....there is not a greater all around car i have driven. I drove it in the rain....no prob, all wheel drive baby! I drove it in the sunshine, man did i get some looks! I took it to the grocery store; had some room in the back, and best of all my girl didn't bitch when she was riding in it 
. I hope i can find the vid for you! I got a million DV cards with no labels scattered around my house. But i'll be sure to do my best.
11-09-2003, 09:46 PM
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im just wondering mike but what do you enjoy better, the viper or the WS-6? im sure it is two different worlds but what do you like better. and by transformation, what are you going, and who is doing it if it is not you??
11-10-2003, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike 01WS6
And THAT is a VERY relative statement as well.
The rapin gets less and less the more horsepower you have. i.e. Two vipers one with 950rwhp and one with 800rwhp. There is not gonna be as big a difference as with a 300 rwhp trans am and a 450rwhp camaro. The percentages of horsepower are different. The trans am only has 66% of the hp the camaro does where as the viper with the lesser hp is witin 84% of the more powerful one.
The rapin gets less and less the more horsepower you have. i.e. Two vipers one with 950rwhp and one with 800rwhp. There is not gonna be as big a difference as with a 300 rwhp trans am and a 450rwhp camaro. The percentages of horsepower are different. The trans am only has 66% of the hp the camaro does where as the viper with the lesser hp is witin 84% of the more powerful one.
