Me vs. 99-04 mustang gt
07-29-2009, 08:13 PM
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oh how the tables will soon turn. the trick flow twisted wedge 2 valve heads are out and they are making some serious steam. word is (i have it on good authority) that the trick flow heads are worth 60 rwhp over a ported to the gills factory pi head. soon you will start to see some scary 2 valves rolling around. hell my buddys car makes 700 rwhp with ported pi heads and an f1a (built motor with cams, intake and meth). i hear that the ported trick flow 2 valve heads also flow more cfm than a stock cobra "c" head.
07-30-2009, 02:30 AM
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oh how the tables will soon turn. the trick flow twisted wedge 2 valve heads are out and they are making some serious steam. word is (i have it on good authority) that the trick flow heads are worth 60 rwhp over a ported to the gills factory pi head. soon you will start to see some scary 2 valves rolling around. hell my buddys car makes 700 rwhp with ported pi heads and an f1a (built motor with cams, intake and meth). i hear that the ported trick flow 2 valve heads also flow more cfm than a stock cobra "c" head.
Still impressive for a 2V. Without the extra weight you never know how it would have went down
07-30-2009, 06:54 AM
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I agree.
In the spirit of fun we can continue this debate 
We'll assume 200 lbs each for the guys which means he had an extra 600 lbs. If he was right on your *** like you say then that puts him ahead of you without passengers. Due to the fact that 2 valves suck up to this point in time (we'll see if that changes with the new heads), a 2 valve that beats a cammed LS1 is impressive. The power adder this and power adder that argument doesn't matter, it's run what you brung, doesn't matter how you go fast. As for your nitrous, if you had sprayed it then we wouldn't be having this conversation as you would have crushed them, but you didn't, and it's too late to pull that trigger now 
We'll assume 200 lbs each for the guys which means he had an extra 600 lbs. If he was right on your *** like you say then that puts him ahead of you without passengers. Due to the fact that 2 valves suck up to this point in time (we'll see if that changes with the new heads), a 2 valve that beats a cammed LS1 is impressive. The power adder this and power adder that argument doesn't matter, it's run what you brung, doesn't matter how you go fast. As for your nitrous, if you had sprayed it then we wouldn't be having this conversation as you would have crushed them, but you didn't, and it's too late to pull that trigger now Last edited by ScreaminRedZ; 07-30-2009 at 07:09 AM.
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I agree.
In the spirit of fun we can continue this debate We'll assume 200 lbs each for the guys which means he had an extra 600 lbs. If he was right on your *** like you say then that puts him ahead of you without passengers. Due to the fact that 2 valves suck up to this point in time (we'll see if that changes with the new heads), a 2 valve that beats a cammed LS1 is impressive. The power adder this and power adder that argument doesn't matter, it's run what you brung, doesn't matter how you go fast. As for your nitrous, if you had sprayed it then we wouldn't be having this conversation as you would have crushed them, but you didn't, and it's too late to pull that trigger now
In the spirit of fun we can continue this debate
We'll assume 200 lbs each for the guys which means he had an extra 600 lbs. If he was right on your *** like you say then that puts him ahead of you without passengers. Due to the fact that 2 valves suck up to this point in time (we'll see if that changes with the new heads), a 2 valve that beats a cammed LS1 is impressive. The power adder this and power adder that argument doesn't matter, it's run what you brung, doesn't matter how you go fast. As for your nitrous, if you had sprayed it then we wouldn't be having this conversation as you would have crushed them, but you didn't, and it's too late to pull that trigger now
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07-30-2009, 12:37 PM
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I agree.
In the spirit of fun we can continue this debate We'll assume 200 lbs each for the guys which means he had an extra 600 lbs. If he was right on your *** like you say then that puts him ahead of you without passengers. Due to the fact that 2 valves suck up to this point in time (we'll see if that changes with the new heads), a 2 valve that beats a cammed LS1 is impressive. The power adder this and power adder that argument doesn't matter, it's run what you brung, doesn't matter how you go fast. As for your nitrous, if you had sprayed it then we wouldn't be having this conversation as you would have crushed them, but you didn't, and it's too late to pull that trigger now
In the spirit of fun we can continue this debate
We'll assume 200 lbs each for the guys which means he had an extra 600 lbs. If he was right on your *** like you say then that puts him ahead of you without passengers. Due to the fact that 2 valves suck up to this point in time (we'll see if that changes with the new heads), a 2 valve that beats a cammed LS1 is impressive. The power adder this and power adder that argument doesn't matter, it's run what you brung, doesn't matter how you go fast. As for your nitrous, if you had sprayed it then we wouldn't be having this conversation as you would have crushed them, but you didn't, and it's too late to pull that trigger now But they still didn't win LOL the fact of the matter is they were still behind me not gaining any ground on me. If there was only one guy in the car it would have been different and there would have been a whole different conversation saying a mustang beat me N/A but i beat him on spray lol. Just as you said to late for him he lost to a cammed LS1 in his modded stang.
07-30-2009, 02:01 PM
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I think what he was trying to say is. 400rwhp, is 400rwhp. Getting N/A or Fi doesn't matter. Power is power. Which is still debatable. I agree that power is power, and power band is where it makes more of a difference. But some disagree, adn that's fine.
07-30-2009, 02:08 PM
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That's a tad different everyone know's a busa is fast, no one know's of 2v's being fast. I know exactly what he's talking about with the weight yes it was a fast 2v i never said it wasn't but he's telling me run what you brung etc. and i won the race lol. Same goes for the 2v if he wanted to win he should have ran without passangers but he still wouldn't have won cause all i had to do was flip the nitrous switch. A win is a win
07-30-2009, 02:13 PM
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I agree.
In the spirit of fun we can continue this debate We'll assume 200 lbs each for the guys which means he had an extra 600 lbs. If he was right on your *** like you say then that puts him ahead of you without passengers.. Due to the fact that 2 valves suck up to this point in time (we'll see if that changes with the new heads), a 2 valve that beats a cammed LS1 is impressive. The power adder this and power adder that argument doesn't matter, it's run what you brung, doesn't matter how you go fast. As for your nitrous, if you had sprayed it then we wouldn't be having this conversation as you would have crushed them, but you didn't, and it's too late to pull that trigger now
In the spirit of fun we can continue this debate
We'll assume 200 lbs each for the guys which means he had an extra 600 lbs. If he was right on your *** like you say then that puts him ahead of you without passengers.. Due to the fact that 2 valves suck up to this point in time (we'll see if that changes with the new heads), a 2 valve that beats a cammed LS1 is impressive. The power adder this and power adder that argument doesn't matter, it's run what you brung, doesn't matter how you go fast. As for your nitrous, if you had sprayed it then we wouldn't be having this conversation as you would have crushed them, but you didn't, and it's too late to pull that trigger now
07-30-2009, 02:16 PM
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I read an article about a 2V GT all built up with an F1 blower. The car made around 600 rwhp. To me a built V8 with an F1 making 600 rwhp is not impressive. However, a 1999-2004 GT making 600 rwhp is impressive. See what I'm saying? You can tear apart every build and analyze each piece to figure out who has the most "impressive" build and that's fine, but in a random street race where you really don't know for sure what's done you have to take it for what it is. In my book a 2V GT with about 600 extra lbs of passengers that can hang with a cammed LS1 is impressive. How it got there may be another story
07-30-2009, 02:19 PM
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I'm really just breaking ***** (as I have been from my first post when I was 100% joking) but it's always fun to debate.
It's a bit easier to just flip a switch and hit the nitrous than it is to kick your friends out of the car while driving down the road
Why does it matter how you made the power? Adding a heads/cam package to an LS1 adds 100 rwhp, but it's not technically a power adder. Does that mean the power from it is somehow better or worse than 100 rwhp added from a blower?
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07-30-2009, 02:25 PM
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oh how the tables will soon turn. the trick flow twisted wedge 2 valve heads are out and they are making some serious steam. word is (i have it on good authority) that the trick flow heads are worth 60 rwhp over a ported to the gills factory pi head. soon you will start to see some scary 2 valves rolling around. hell my buddys car makes 700 rwhp with ported pi heads and an f1a (built motor with cams, intake and meth). i hear that the ported trick flow 2 valve heads also flow more cfm than a stock cobra "c" head.
Now add FI and its a different situation. Pretty much any car can be fast with a big *** turbo or supercharger on it.
07-30-2009, 02:25 PM
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Pretty much. I see it like this:
I read an article about a 2V GT all built up with an F1 blower. The car made around 600 rwhp. To me a built V8 with an F1 making 600 rwhp is not impressive. However, a 1999-2004 GT making 600 rwhp is impressive. See what I'm saying? You can tear apart every build and analyze each piece to figure out who has the most "impressive" build and that's fine, but in a random street race where you really don't know for sure what's done you have to take it for what it is. In my book a 2V GT with about 600 extra lbs of passengers that can hang with a cammed LS1 is impressive. How it got there may be another story
I read an article about a 2V GT all built up with an F1 blower. The car made around 600 rwhp. To me a built V8 with an F1 making 600 rwhp is not impressive. However, a 1999-2004 GT making 600 rwhp is impressive. See what I'm saying? You can tear apart every build and analyze each piece to figure out who has the most "impressive" build and that's fine, but in a random street race where you really don't know for sure what's done you have to take it for what it is. In my book a 2V GT with about 600 extra lbs of passengers that can hang with a cammed LS1 is impressive. How it got there may be another story
good fun though 
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oh how the tables will soon turn. the trick flow twisted wedge 2 valve heads are out and they are making some serious steam. word is (i have it on good authority) that the trick flow heads are worth 60 rwhp over a ported to the gills factory pi head. soon you will start to see some scary 2 valves rolling around. hell my buddys car makes 700 rwhp with ported pi heads and an f1a (built motor with cams, intake and meth). i hear that the ported trick flow 2 valve heads also flow more cfm than a stock cobra "c" head.
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