WS6 vs ls2 GTO vs MACH1
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Only way to fit more rubber than 275 in the rear of a GTO is to do a minitub, which I highly doubt that car has. I have drag bags, drag springs and rolled fenders and I can comfortably fit 275's, but no bigger.
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lol at the end of the race you can hear my friend in his 03 cobra saying "i will own that ******* gto right now" lmao.. he kinda has bad blood with them and was super pissed i got hazard hahaha
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OP nice videos! Thought you were on private property at a race track somewhere at first. More vids coming hopefully??
Yeah, if that was his only mods I got some beach front property to sell you...
I've raced 2 Mach 1's, 4 2010 Mustang GT's (one of them full exhaust n gears) and at least 10 other midly modded newer Mustang GT's and none of them would have done as good as the WS6 did. The stock ones all died badly...
I've raced 2 Mach 1's, 4 2010 Mustang GT's (one of them full exhaust n gears) and at least 10 other midly modded newer Mustang GT's and none of them would have done as good as the WS6 did. The stock ones all died badly...
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OP nice videos! Thought you were on private property at a race track somewhere at first. More vids coming hopefully??
Yeah, if that was his only mods I got some beach front property to sell you...
I've raced 2 Mach 1's, 4 2010 Mustang GT's (one of them full exhaust n gears) and at least 10 other midly modded newer Mustang GT's and none of them would have done as good as the WS6 did. The stock ones all died badly...
Yeah, if that was his only mods I got some beach front property to sell you...
I've raced 2 Mach 1's, 4 2010 Mustang GT's (one of them full exhaust n gears) and at least 10 other midly modded newer Mustang GT's and none of them would have done as good as the WS6 did. The stock ones all died badly...
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OP nice videos! Thought you were on private property at a race track somewhere at first. More vids coming hopefully??
Yeah, if that was his only mods I got some beach front property to sell you...
I've raced 2 Mach 1's, 4 2010 Mustang GT's (one of them full exhaust n gears) and at least 10 other midly modded newer Mustang GT's and none of them would have done as good as the WS6 did. The stock ones all died badly...
Yeah, if that was his only mods I got some beach front property to sell you...
I've raced 2 Mach 1's, 4 2010 Mustang GT's (one of them full exhaust n gears) and at least 10 other midly modded newer Mustang GT's and none of them would have done as good as the WS6 did. The stock ones all died badly...
THank you!.
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You never know "what" the other guy has on the streets. What one say's is stock, might indicate that the block is. He might have a crap-full of bolt-ons for that matter!! For all intended purposes, I simply lie about certain mods (like many of us do) done to my car for the simple intent of not only winning, but to really impress the other guy. You know he's going to tell his friends. That's how it works. Ive got an 04" Pontiac Grand Prix GTP with a supercharged 6 banger, 4 doors and all. Not very threating. However, I hang out with the LS crowd for a reason (Others on this post can attest). I'll never tell ALL my mods, but when I come around with my grocery-getter late that saturday night, many will recognize it and know its not slow and it's not stock. Winning a street race with a certain Mustang, (or any car for that matter) does not make them all the same. That's foolish thinking AND a good way to lose!!
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Been in, conservatively, 1,500 streetraces. Maybe 100 of them were marked off late night runs for money, 1/4 from a stoplight, majority of the rest from a slow roll. But if it makes you feel superior you can call me a "nOOb" if you want Shetland Pony boy.
What one say's is stock, might indicate that the block is. He might have a crap-full of bolt-ons for that matter!! For all intended purposes, I simply lie about certain mods (like many of us do) ... Winning a street race with a certain Mustang, (or any car for that matter) does not make them all the same. That's foolish thinking AND a good way to lose!!
And for the record, my last camaro was stock except for a cam and headers that I did so it would sound cool.
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Chances are that Ram-Air T/A, or Camaro SS or KR500 here in Orlando will be full of mods. Everybody's cammed up and modified. Finding a stock one, is like that needle.....
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Too prove my "nobody mods" point: I have a friend with scads of money who owns a GT500KR. all stock with no plans on modding it. This from a guy who mods the hell out of his bikes, owns and rebuilds honest to god TANKS and ARMORED TRANSPORTS, put a 250hp shot of nitrous on his Viper V10 powered wheely bar equiped Tryke, owns one of the worlds fastest tanks, but leaves his KR stock. Must be something in the air... His Dodge diesel is stock, too, along with his supercharged Rousch F150.
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And...You'd be quite wrong about your assumption on my age. Nice try though.
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Well...for someone who's been around for so long and loves to brag about his 'conservative' street races, I'd have thought you would have mastered reading comprehension by now. Feel free to re-read my post until you get it ok genius.
And...You'd be quite wrong about your assumption on my age. Nice try though.![Sleepy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_zzz.gif)
And...You'd be quite wrong about your assumption on my age. Nice try though.
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As far as my street races: there is vary vary few cars up here that are in the 11's or low 12's to run against. Plenty are no doubt parked in garages, just not on the street.
Unless you count the plethora of high dollar Mercedes, Lamborghini's, Ferrari F430's, McClaren's, Ford GT's, etc. driven by snobs who will never run.
So: I am finishing building a car that is perfectly streetable (20,000 miles a year I will put on it), will be in the low 12's, and I will have a ton of fun racing other legitimate contenders every single week. Unlike if I built a 10 second beast (which I could easily afford to do) that I would have to look hard and long to find suitable competition. Don't know about you, but I prefer the funner, simpler route. If I wanted to race at those speeds, I just need to hop on the ZX-14 and tear up some mountain passes.
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Reading comprehension? Wasn't gonna go there, but (from the guy who knows all about racing) you spelled "racing" wrong. ![The Judge](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_judge.gif)
As far as my street races: there is vary vary few cars up here that are in the 11's or low 12's to run against. Plenty are no doubt parked in garages, just not on the street.
Unless you count the plethora of high dollar Mercedes, Lamborghini's, Ferrari F430's, McClaren's, Ford GT's, etc. driven by snobs who will never run.
So: I am finishing building a car that is perfectly streetable (20,000 miles a year I will put on it), will be in the low 12's, and I will have a ton of fun racing other legitimate contenders every single week. Unlike if I built a 10 second beast (which I could easily afford to do) that I would have to look hard and long to find suitable competition. Don't know about you, but I prefer the funner, simpler route. If I wanted to race at those speeds, I just need to hop on the ZX-14 and tear up some mountain passes.
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As far as my street races: there is vary vary few cars up here that are in the 11's or low 12's to run against. Plenty are no doubt parked in garages, just not on the street.
Unless you count the plethora of high dollar Mercedes, Lamborghini's, Ferrari F430's, McClaren's, Ford GT's, etc. driven by snobs who will never run.
So: I am finishing building a car that is perfectly streetable (20,000 miles a year I will put on it), will be in the low 12's, and I will have a ton of fun racing other legitimate contenders every single week. Unlike if I built a 10 second beast (which I could easily afford to do) that I would have to look hard and long to find suitable competition. Don't know about you, but I prefer the funner, simpler route. If I wanted to race at those speeds, I just need to hop on the ZX-14 and tear up some mountain passes.
First off.....typing fast enough to miss one letter is a miss-spelling, not a reading comprehension issue. It would appear that English was not your forte. Sadly, it wasn't mine either, but at least I know what 'reading COMPREHENSION' means. It means: comprehending (or understanding) what it is you are reading.
Case in point; I said:
IE: you were wrong in your comments about the Blue Oval and your ignorance showed.
BTW - Nice 'vary vary' comment. You know the difference in that and "very" right?
And......I'm legitimately interested in your new project. What's your plans?
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OK....obviously you need some help...so I'll provide that. I don't like seeing n00b's struggle if I can help it.
First off.....typing fast enough to miss one letter is a miss-spelling, not a reading comprehension issue. It would appear that English was not your forte. Sadly, it wasn't mine either, but at least I know what 'reading COMPREHENSION' means. It means: comprehending (or understanding) what it is you are reading.
Case in point; I said:
I used the word "these" that specifically relates to Mach 1's. Your response was bragging about your street racing history and how many runs you have made in various cars. That has absolutely NOTHING to do with what I posted. Mach 1s are a drivers race with an Fbody. The only difference in those two cars would be the LT's (IIRC while typing this). The Mach probably had wider rubber than the OP did. It's apparent in all your races (street or track: namely track) you haven't learned much about the N/A 32V Modular setup of 03/04.
IE: you were wrong in your comments about the Blue Oval and your ignorance showed.
BTW - Nice 'vary vary' comment. You know the difference in that and "very" right?
And......I'm legitimately interested in your new project. What's your plans?
First off.....typing fast enough to miss one letter is a miss-spelling, not a reading comprehension issue. It would appear that English was not your forte. Sadly, it wasn't mine either, but at least I know what 'reading COMPREHENSION' means. It means: comprehending (or understanding) what it is you are reading.
Case in point; I said:
I used the word "these" that specifically relates to Mach 1's. Your response was bragging about your street racing history and how many runs you have made in various cars. That has absolutely NOTHING to do with what I posted. Mach 1s are a drivers race with an Fbody. The only difference in those two cars would be the LT's (IIRC while typing this). The Mach probably had wider rubber than the OP did. It's apparent in all your races (street or track: namely track) you haven't learned much about the N/A 32V Modular setup of 03/04.
IE: you were wrong in your comments about the Blue Oval and your ignorance showed.
BTW - Nice 'vary vary' comment. You know the difference in that and "very" right?
And......I'm legitimately interested in your new project. What's your plans?
http://allfordmustangs.com/forums/4-...-1-4-mile.html
I could be wrong about this, but didnt the 2010 GT come stock with all the upgrades that came on the 2009 Mach 1? Hence a 2010 GT effectively IS the same as running a '09 Mach 1? Thats why I mentioned running the 2010 GT's.
Truce or ya want to keep going?
As for my mild build: LS3 heads (still looking for them: want those LS3 valves), 2600-3000 stall converter (not in a hurry for it, and prefer a smaller stall for streetability). The rest I have: Comp Cams 226/232, .610/.617 112lsa cam, Lingenfelter stud girdle, ported L92 intake, Kooks 1 3/4 LT's with cat'd mids, SLP Predator-(custom tune after heads/cam), White trans ECU at 0% TM, Vavaram over the radiator CAI, full poli suspension front n rear, Pedders rear 0 drop springs with drag bags, autocross spec Potenza RE-01R tires, and some other bits n pieces I cant think of right now. Basing it off of some other members of LS1GTO.com who are getting between 450-500rwhp with similiar setups n cams.
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Sorry, but I ran a then new Mach 1 in my brothers bone stock '01 Firebird (non WS6): I beat him off the stoplight by a fender, stayed that way until I hit 5500 in 2nd where I started to pull. By top of third I had a couple cars. My brother ran that 'bird to a 13.2 a few weeks later in 90 deg weather. As far as being so badass: I was going off what your fellow Mustang guys claim: the best pro driver times ever posted was a 13.1 @105. Most real world cars ran mid to high 13's.
http://allfordmustangs.com/forums/4-...-1-4-mile.html
I could be wrong about this, but didnt the 2010 GT come stock with all the upgrades that came on the 2009 Mach 1? Hence a 2010 GT effectively IS the same as running a '09 Mach 1? Thats why I mentioned running the 2010 GT's.
Truce or ya want to keep going?
As for my mild build: LS3 heads (still looking for them: want those LS3 valves), 2600-3000 stall converter (not in a hurry for it, and prefer a smaller stall for streetability). The rest I have: Comp Cams 226/232, .610/.617 112lsa cam, Lingenfelter stud girdle, ported L92 intake, Kooks 1 3/4 LT's with cat'd mids, SLP Predator-(custom tune after heads/cam), White trans ECU at 0% TM, Vavaram over the radiator CAI, full poli suspension front n rear, Pedders rear 0 drop springs with drag bags, autocross spec Potenza RE-01R tires, and some other bits n pieces I cant think of right now. Basing it off of some other members of LS1GTO.com who are getting between 450-500rwhp with similiar setups n cams.
http://allfordmustangs.com/forums/4-...-1-4-mile.html
I could be wrong about this, but didnt the 2010 GT come stock with all the upgrades that came on the 2009 Mach 1? Hence a 2010 GT effectively IS the same as running a '09 Mach 1? Thats why I mentioned running the 2010 GT's.
Truce or ya want to keep going?
As for my mild build: LS3 heads (still looking for them: want those LS3 valves), 2600-3000 stall converter (not in a hurry for it, and prefer a smaller stall for streetability). The rest I have: Comp Cams 226/232, .610/.617 112lsa cam, Lingenfelter stud girdle, ported L92 intake, Kooks 1 3/4 LT's with cat'd mids, SLP Predator-(custom tune after heads/cam), White trans ECU at 0% TM, Vavaram over the radiator CAI, full poli suspension front n rear, Pedders rear 0 drop springs with drag bags, autocross spec Potenza RE-01R tires, and some other bits n pieces I cant think of right now. Basing it off of some other members of LS1GTO.com who are getting between 450-500rwhp with similiar setups n cams.
As for truce? ANyone on here that knows me will tell you that I'm a reaslistic person no matter the brand and I'm not one for spreading ignorance/ill-knowledge. That's why I made those comments. That would be like me coming in here and saying a WS6 is quicker than a TA or an SS quicker than a Z. We all know that's wrong. So I don't have anything against you parse. Just the incorrect post you made. If you have any Q's on machs, you can always PM me as many members have done. :thumbsup:
Your setup sounds respectable. GL with it and let us know when you have it put together.
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