Lemons12 VS LT1 Z28- Ls6, Ms4, PRC stg1s, etc..
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j/k. haha no but really, that might be the worse video i have ever seen. what happened to those good quality ones? oh well, defintely a case of good setup vs. bad setup. 4.10 is a track gear, not for roll racing. jw, whats youre CR those heads? theyre 317s, correct?
good kill man. nothing wrong with a little canabilism.
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j/k. haha no but really, that might be the worse video i have ever seen. what happened to those good quality ones? oh well, defintely a case of good setup vs. bad setup. 4.10 is a track gear, not for roll racing. jw, whats youre CR those heads? theyre 317s, correct?
good kill man. nothing wrong with a little canabilism.
We both have 3.73s.. His car would be faster, even from a roll, with 410s.
I have a pretty good idea of how to set up an ms4 car.. Like I said, I would have HATED to run into my white one on the street.
I don't know what my CR is. They are hand ported 317s, my tuner says he knows they guy who ported them and has flowed a set of his hand ported heads and they flowed like TOTAL ****.
Yea, he pulled the lt1 out a year or two ago? correct me if I'm wrong Rossi.. And put in the Ls6..
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. I know, only thing we had.. It wasn't really "planned", plus its better than NOTHING!
We both have 3.73s.. His car would be faster, even from a roll, with 410s.
I have a pretty good idea of how to set up an ms4 car.. Like I said, I would have HATED to run into my white one on the street.
I don't know what my CR is. They are hand ported 317s, my tuner says he knows they guy who ported them and has flowed a set of his hand ported heads and they flowed like TOTAL ****.
We both have 3.73s.. His car would be faster, even from a roll, with 410s.
I have a pretty good idea of how to set up an ms4 car.. Like I said, I would have HATED to run into my white one on the street.
I don't know what my CR is. They are hand ported 317s, my tuner says he knows they guy who ported them and has flowed a set of his hand ported heads and they flowed like TOTAL ****.
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The owner before the last one had the 317 head lying around in the garage and he decided he would get them ported/milled and stick on there.. They are definitely better than stock heads but there is major room for improvement.
No plan on FI for this car as of yet. I may at some point down the road go with a single turbo setup by Josh or possibly D1, but who knows... For now this is getting the job done!
You know how much I liked my Vig. 4000..
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ok well looks like i am going to go with a totally different set up now i am going to get trickflow 220cc w/59cc and vrx5 cam and that will go great with my 3600 stall so i will have a ms4 cam for sale and also tsp ls6 stage 1 ported heads for sale
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Great kill. His windows down, top out, and having a passenger could be costing him 2+ cars easily depending on the weight of the passenger. Your top looked like it was in and I didn't notice a passenger in your car but I couldn't really see. Just some info to throw out there. Figure a car length for every 100 pounds roughly so even a light 150 pound passenger will cost at least 1 car length, closer to 2 if it's not such a light passenger. People tend to underestimate how much a passenger affects the outcome of a race, roll or dig.
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Great kill. His windows down, top out, and having a passenger could be costing him 2+ cars easily depending on the weight of the passenger. Your top looked like it was in and I didn't notice a passenger in your car but I couldn't really see. Just some info to throw out there. Figure a car length for every 100 pounds roughly so even a light 150 pound passenger will cost at least 1 car length, closer to 2 if it's not such a light passenger. People tend to underestimate how much a passenger affects the outcome of a race, roll or dig.
Neither one of us think that the outcome would have been too different.. And I believe from a roll it would have been even worse, I cut 1.50-1.53 short times.. And seeing at the lower speed I jumped even worse immediately......
Even if his windows up ttops in and no passenger gave him two lengths, I still would have been in the lead and pulling up top and probably out of the hole..
With that said, taking into consideration both our setups, he should still pull me.. His car is around 150lbs IIRC lighter than mine is (which would also compensate for the passenger almost).. It just REALLY surprised the both of us.. Hopefully he will get it worked out though!
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ok i read your kill stories all the time. I also remember one about a stock mustang that you raced and it crushed you and now it won't race you again. This stock mustang is still waiting for that race havent changed a thing except some suspension upgrades. I see you race your own breed or people you know that you are going to beat. I think you are still traumatized from the last time you seen those tail lights. I know the car you had the first time was stock and from the sound of mine i surely thought you could tell it wasnt stock but you now have your car running alot better so lets get it on. You bring your car slicks nitrous whatever you have doesn't matter i dont want to hear i'm not racing a thirteen second car or take your nitrous off. What you dont post on your kill stories is you pick who you race based on the fact you know you will win. I will race anything anywhere dont care if i get beat the race is fun but i dont pick who i race. I didnt come to you the night we raced you came to me asking if my car was stock i said yes you said wanna race? Now that you know what my car does on the street you dont want anything to do with it. Race me you win you have another kill story to write about you lose you shut up!
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ok i read your kill stories all the time. I also remember one about a stock mustang that you raced and it crushed you and now it won't race you again. This stock mustang is still waiting for that race havent changed a thing except some suspension upgrades. I see you race your own breed or people you know that you are going to beat. I think you are still traumatized from the last time you seen those tail lights. I know the car you had the first time was stock and from the sound of mine i surely thought you could tell it wasnt stock but you now have your car running alot better so lets get it on. You bring your car slicks nitrous whatever you have doesn't matter i dont want to hear i'm not racing a thirteen second car or take your nitrous off. What you dont post on your kill stories is you pick who you race based on the fact you know you will win. I will race anything anywhere dont care if i get beat the race is fun but i dont pick who i race. I didnt come to you the night we raced you came to me asking if my car was stock i said yes you said wanna race? Now that you know what my car does on the street you dont want anything to do with it. Race me you win you have another kill story to write about you lose you shut up!