obZidian

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under 10 seconds? You sure?

got-a-ls1

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lol... really?

0-150 in under 10 seconds while it runs a low 10 1/4 mile at 140+ ? wow now that makes sense.

1992TsiAWD

Tell us more, Mr. Man!

The Manalishi

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Look the editor of Motor Trend has joined us.

Fadi

IMO, a CGT with an equally skilled driver as a Z06 would run away from the Z06. A Z06 is far from a 130 mph car. It might go high 120's or touch 130 with a perfect driver, in perfect conditions, in a negative DA, at the fastest track in the country, in perfect everything else. Typically, a bone stock Z06 is a 125 mph car, while the ZR1 is a 130 mph car. This is not the best they can do, but on average, this is where they are.

A ZR1 and a CGT is a close race, very close race, and if I had to bet giving the edge to one or the other, I would give it to the ZR1. JMO

chasgiv3

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Whatever pill you're popping please cut it in half...it's affecting you in a very negative way!

Deuuuce

Your beliefs are based on those videos, which are meaningless when it comes to comparing a ZR1 to a CGT with equal drivers.

None of those guys you mentioned do a full-lift shift and besides negative DA, powershifting is the only way they are getting trap speeds 4-5mph higher than any magazine time.

Too bad there are not enough CGTs being drag raced to get better samples. I will say this: IF the CGT isn't capable of 1.7 60fts, the ZR1 will win by ET but will trap lower and definitely lose from a roll.

Imagine if Ranger or Furman drove a CGT? It would be a 10sec 136mph+ car. What applies to the ZR1 also applies to the CGT...

The BEST Z-06 bolt-on times show a CGT with an equal driver will beat it every time as well:

1---10.198 @134.67--1.40---Gary2004Z06-------'08-----Details (full slicks/skinnys and 4:10 gear)
2---10.630 @131.35--1.55---Sébast19X -------'08-----Details
3---10.764 @129.77--1.56---07WhiteDevilZ------'07 -----Details
4---10.821 @126.16--1.61---m3corvette-------'06. -------Details
5---10.840 @128.30--1.59---TNTZ06------'07-----Details ******** Top 10 avg: 10.787 @ 129.39
6---10.851 @128.68--1.68---KILLER06GT-----'08-----Details
7---10.866 @130.10--1.68---Smokinu-------'06 -------Details
8---10.877 @127.97--1.62---DriverMod44-----'09-----Details
9---10.938 @129.42--1.72---FrenchyZ06-----'07-----Details
10--10.948 @128.65--1.70---Joe11204-----'09-----Details
**************************************** *****************
11--10.999 @127.74--1.71---LPFSTheFett------'07 -------Details
12--11.027 @125.66--1.74---walterm32 -----'08Details
13--11.083 @126.38--1.73---KLLRVET-----'06. -------Details
14--11.109 @129.34--1.78---GotGrunt'06 -----Details
15--11.126 @129.66--1.84---Slow Poke-----'07 -------Details*****Top 20 avg 10.958@ 128.48
16--11.139 @129.35--1.78---RWTD-----'08 .......Details
17--11.151 @126.61--1.79---427silverhotrod-----'08 ------Details
18--11.191 @124.86--1.78---BIGGGIE-----'07 -----Details
19--11.234 @132.88--1.83---Jorday-----'07 -------Details
20--11.249 @123.24--1.73---Jeenis-------'07 ------Details

Stock ZR1 dragtimes

4) 10.730*#+ 132.460 7.003 103.940 1.720 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 2009 Ranger drag radials
5) 10.740*#+ 133.210 7.032 104.620 1.735 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 2009 blownlt1&c6z bone stock/stock rubber
7) 10.794*#+ 132.210 7.080 102.350 1.797 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 2009 Jamie Furman
8) 10.851*#+ 129.890 7.065 102.010 1.708 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 2009 racerns (Neil)
10) 11.054*#+ 129.050 7.214 99.970 1.758 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 2009 ZO6Jeff

obZidian

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I agree that CGT would beat a Z06... but not run away. Furthermore, A z06 runs on a roll like a 129mph car, not a 125mph car. What I mean about this is very simple, look at those times posted by the search-machine deuuuce. If you just saw those numbers than you can say, yeah, a Z06 is a 125mph car. However, notice the list with non factory tires..... such as a DR. The car, all of a sudden, jumps up to the 129mph range. The reason for this is that the stock GY's are really that bad and very inconsistent at the strip. Where as when you race with a decent tire, such as a DR, the car becomes more consistent. I would also like to add, for example a HKSGTR runs in the 128-129mph range. My Z06 and others, in stock trim, has repeatedly run door to door, if not a slight move for me when I shift into 4th. (124-125mph) Also, 06 viper that ran a 126mph I beat by 3 1/2 cars, Evo's with 550awhp that hit mid 120's, 600rwhp GTO's, 650rwhp CTS-V in the 128mph... all of those cars I have either been dead even with or pulled a tad in 4th.

For example, lets talk about the GTR. With launch control, they normally run in the low 120's... without, 117-118mph. Granted they don't take the jump on you and you got your A-game when shifting, that car doesn't run like a 122mph car on the street from a roll. We should look more into track times in order to now how a car runs on the street.

So, a CGT should beat a stock z06, it has more power and the weight is decent, but not run away from it unless they go over 160mph where the Z06 shifts into 5th.

It is meaningful... but you fail to see it.... that's fine. Think about it some more, you'll get it.

YES, they ALL DO A FULL LIFT SHIFT. PM them all if you wish, but they all lift between shifts, just as i do. Shifting fast doesn't require a powershift.

Now you are believing magazine journalist, who need a cars like the GTR and the new 911tt to make them look good. Like I said, you believe what you want, but the truth is that you are underestimating, even though you say you are not.

They (we) don't need negative DA, powershifts, etc.... just a practiced launch and good shifts down the quarter. Like I said, recently, a local stock Z06 with a good tire went 129mph in SOUTH FLORIDA no powershifts, no tricks. Believe it.

jomo

Basic stats
Layout & Body style Mid-engine, four-wheel drive two-door coupé/Targa top Base price €1,223,679 (£1,063,826/$1,700,000)
Internal combustion engine 8.0 litre W16, 64v DOHC quad-turbocharged petrol engine Engine displacement
& max. power 7,993 cc (487.8 cu in)
1,001 metric horsepower (736 kW; 987 bhp)
Performance
Top speed 408.5 km/h (253.8 mph) (average) 0–100 km/h (0.0–62.1 mph) 2.5 seconds[21]
0–160 km/h (0.0–99.4 mph) 5.5 seconds 0–240 km/h (0.0–149.1 mph) 9.8 seconds
0–300 km/h (0.0–186.4 mph)[22] 16.7 seconds 0–400 km/h (0.0–248.5 mph)[23][24] 50 seconds
Standing quarter-mile (402 m)[24] 10.2 seconds at 230 km/h (142.9 mph)
Fuel economy[25]
EPA city driving 8 miles per US gallon (29 L/100 km; 9.6 mpg-imp) EPA highway driving 13 miles per US gallon (18 L/100 km; 16 mpg-imp)
Top speed fuel economy 3 miles per US gallon (78 L/100 km; 3.6 mpg-imp) 1.4 US gallons per minute

Don't get on me just puting the stats out and yes it does not make sense.

chasgiv3

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You posted two stats which opposed each other. Clearly that means you didn't give it any thought. If that's how you're going to post here then expect to get your *** kicked. Don't be a **** for brains and we won't treat you like one.

1992TsiAWD

Wow, I've NEVER heard of this Bugatti!!!

Tell us more!

obZidian

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Now that makes no sense what so ever. Did you copy and paste directly? If so, find another source, that one is a caca!

Newskool Mach

I hate to throw a Ford into this mix, cause I do love the ZR1 but how about this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpX8p...atch-main-area

obZidian

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DUDE?! Really?

That is a C6 with 1000hp and a FGT with 1500hp... um, that is a 500hp difference, even if both have 4 digit hp numbers. But what do you mean with "what about this?"


...buahahahahahaha!!!

Newskool Mach

Actually thought it was cool and funny at the same time...

Darksol

Normally if I saw someone beat like that, I would wonder if he knew it was a race. You embarrassed that car. Those vids gave me a hard on!

VF1Skullangel

Seriously?

We might as well do a 1000hp Supra up against a stock ZR1.

Deuuuce

I see your point about the powershifts. You're muddying the waters regarding DRs. Yes, it's for consistency and also less spin during the shifts for a seemingly higher trap speed.

I'm also guessing you're basing your own results on roll-ons that exceed the trap speeds of 1/4 mile results not to mention gearing, etc. There is no magical aspect to either the Z-06 nor the ZR1.

Until you have a baseline, the videos you supplied don't prove anything.

We can agree to disagree, but put those excellent drivers in a CGT, and say goodbye CZ6 and the ZR1 will lose too.

V-seriesTech

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ZR1 dips but,..not surprised of the outcome.

Note: just heard a CGT out at the mile last weekend,...best sounding porsche ever. Think it went 170's in the mile...

Deuuuce

Check out my article, first in the series "The Best Exhaust Sounds".

Global Motorsports Group who are Porsche racing specialists did an exhaust for the CGT. It's AMAZING.

http://www.examiner.com/x-5826-San-J...Exhaust-Sounds