Triple Play
Originally Posted by Skarecrow
It might sound blasphemous, but I want to keep the car relativly tame (at least tame under normal driving conditions) for the time being. I don't want an overpowering note exhaust yet, nor do I want any driveability issues to crop up. After driving the mustang, which was noisy and unrefined, I really like having all this power with full factory refinement. I may do simple stuff like get a lid, open up the bottom of the airbox (and other free mods), and so on...
Then I got tired of that, and wanted LOUD OBNOXIOUS POWERRRRR. Now for the past year I have been going crazy making my car loud and annoying, and going for pure power. I am on my second cam now, and plan on throwing in a bigger one in a month or two. The MACs are also getting thrown out and some nice LT's with off-road Y's are going on there.
I'm curious if dropping a z06 cam (or something similar to it) and getting the computer re-turned would jump me up about 20-30 rwhp (or more) while still leaving the car with a "factory" feel... I'm also curious if leaving the factory mufflers/exhust on would make getting LTs + high flow cats kinda pointless. I am not sure where the big restrictions are in the exhaust system.
a) I would stay away from the LS6 cam, there are a ton of cams out there that will make more power and keep you just as drivable.
TR 220/220 114
MTI B1 221/221 114
TR Stealth Cam (I believe TSP has one also)
Comp 216/220 114
and there are 2 Lingenfelter cams that make a ton of power and retain a pretty stock idle also.
b) Get LT's, Carsound cats (flow the best) and a quiet cat back system, I know SLP sells one (i know, slp = eh), and I believe TR sells one too. You can even keep your stock tips if you really want to keep it stock looking.
c) LS1edit tuning = great. Most dead stock cars will pick up between 10-20rwhp from a good tune alone ... with aftermarket stuff on there you can pick up some significant Hp from a tune.
Originally Posted by Skarecrow
It might sound blasphemous, but I want to keep the car relativly tame (at least tame under normal driving conditions) for the time being. I don't want an overpowering note exhaust yet, nor do I want any driveability issues to crop up. After driving the mustang, which was noisy and unrefined, I really like having all this power with full factory refinement. I may do simple stuff like get a lid, open up the bottom of the airbox (and other free mods), and so on...
I'm curious if dropping a z06 cam (or something similar to it) and getting the computer re-turned would jump me up about 20-30 rwhp (or more) while still leaving the car with a "factory" feel... I'm also curious if leaving the factory mufflers/exhust on would make getting LTs + high flow cats kinda pointless. I am not sure where the big restrictions are in the exhaust system.
I'm curious if dropping a z06 cam (or something similar to it) and getting the computer re-turned would jump me up about 20-30 rwhp (or more) while still leaving the car with a "factory" feel... I'm also curious if leaving the factory mufflers/exhust on would make getting LTs + high flow cats kinda pointless. I am not sure where the big restrictions are in the exhaust system.
a) I would stay away from the LS6 cam, there are a ton of cams out there that will make more power and keep you just as drivable.
TR 220/220 114
MTI B1 221/221 114
TR Stealth Cam (I believe TSP has one also)
Comp 216/220 114
and there are 2 Lingenfelter cams that make a ton of power and retain a pretty stock idle also.
b) Get LT's, Carsound cats (flow the best) and a quiet cat back system, I know SLP sells one (i know, slp = eh), and I believe TR sells one too. You can even keep your stock tips if you really want to keep it stock looking.
c) LS1edit tuning = great. Most dead stock cars will pick up between 10-20rwhp from a good tune alone ... with aftermarket stuff on there you can pick up some significant Hp from a tune.
d) Also, the BEST way to add some sneaky HP is definately to juice it. Nobody can tell it is there until you're flying past them with ease .... I'd say it is one of the best inventions ever. hehe
Oh, and about the F-bird .... it was definately a 6cyl .... the formula's have basically the same car as you but it is alittle lighter .... so even a dead stock one should've kept up with you car better than that. I am also sure it was not a TA since they have a completely different light pattern, which if you could not tell the difference in you should be shot.
What tools?!? All of the specialty tools you need can be rented from AutoZone, pepboys, or basically any other autoparts shop. All you basically need after that is a standard tool set with some sockets and whatnot, and a way to hold up the lifters, whether it be the magnets, or the lifter tool.
I think I spent 100 bucks on tools and accessories for my first cam install, which included the pulley puller, pen magnets, fluids, and everything else that was needed. As they said before, the Cam install is really not very hard at all ... the springs are somewhat annoying, but again not difficult.
Then again you're probably right, the 7-800 dollar install is a much better idea then the 100-150 dollars to do it yourself.
I think I spent 100 bucks on tools and accessories for my first cam install, which included the pulley puller, pen magnets, fluids, and everything else that was needed. As they said before, the Cam install is really not very hard at all ... the springs are somewhat annoying, but again not difficult.
Then again you're probably right, the 7-800 dollar install is a much better idea then the 100-150 dollars to do it yourself.
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Originally Posted by xphantomws6x
What tools?!? All of the specialty tools you need can be rented from AutoZone, pepboys, or basically any other autoparts shop. All you basically need after that is a standard tool set with some sockets and whatnot, and a way to hold up the lifters, whether it be the magnets, or the lifter tool.
I think I spent 100 bucks on tools and accessories for my first cam install, which included the pulley puller, pen magnets, fluids, and everything else that was needed. As they said before, the Cam install is really not very hard at all ... the springs are somewhat annoying, but again not difficult.
Then again you're probably right, the 7-800 dollar install is a much better idea then the 100-150 dollars to do it yourself.
I think I spent 100 bucks on tools and accessories for my first cam install, which included the pulley puller, pen magnets, fluids, and everything else that was needed. As they said before, the Cam install is really not very hard at all ... the springs are somewhat annoying, but again not difficult.
Then again you're probably right, the 7-800 dollar install is a much better idea then the 100-150 dollars to do it yourself.
Haha camaro ....
Like I said, if you're looking for a stealth cam, pick one of the ones up above, the 224/114 is not going to sound stock, it will still have a small lope to it. Probably the B1 (221/221 114) is the largest you can go and have the car still sound somewhat stock.
Like I said, if you're looking for a stealth cam, pick one of the ones up above, the 224/114 is not going to sound stock, it will still have a small lope to it. Probably the B1 (221/221 114) is the largest you can go and have the car still sound somewhat stock.
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Originally Posted by xphantomws6x
What tools?!? All of the specialty tools you need can be rented from AutoZone, pepboys, or basically any other autoparts shop. All you basically need after that is a standard tool set with some sockets and whatnot, and a way to hold up the lifters, whether it be the magnets, or the lifter tool.
I think I spent 100 bucks on tools and accessories for my first cam install, which included the pulley puller, pen magnets, fluids, and everything else that was needed. As they said before, the Cam install is really not very hard at all ... the springs are somewhat annoying, but again not difficult.
Then again you're probably right, the 7-800 dollar install is a much better idea then the 100-150 dollars to do it yourself.
I think I spent 100 bucks on tools and accessories for my first cam install, which included the pulley puller, pen magnets, fluids, and everything else that was needed. As they said before, the Cam install is really not very hard at all ... the springs are somewhat annoying, but again not difficult.
Then again you're probably right, the 7-800 dollar install is a much better idea then the 100-150 dollars to do it yourself.
Scarecrow, no you cannot use my engine as practice.
Originally Posted by black_z
Autozone rents the tools for free here, all you do it put down the deposit.
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Maybe I should go check back with them. But that's how I remember it last time I tried to rent some spring compressors.
Anywho, the cost of labor is well worth doing it yourself. Then you got more cash in your wallet!
Anywho, the cost of labor is well worth doing it yourself. Then you got more cash in your wallet!
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Definately, I called some shops after I installed my first cam to see what it would've been to have someone do it, and they were all asking for around 700-800 dollars, and 2 days. That's just about the same amount I spent on all the cam, oil pump, springs, retainers, tools, fluids, etc etc etc .... Crazy.
Definately, I called some shops after I installed my first cam to see what it would've been to have someone do it, and they were all asking for around 700-800 dollars, and 2 days. That's just about the same amount I spent on all the cam, oil pump, springs, retainers, tools, fluids, etc etc etc .... Crazy.