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Old 06-09-2010, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 1992TsiAWD
Can you be more specific with your mod list?

15psi on a 14b isn't the same as 15psi on a 30R.
its a FP 20G with some goodies.

it is on 15psi on E85

i just have GR2's with some springs.
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also these two runs are the first time i launch the car with the new built trans.

so i still need to get use to it.
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Originally Posted by prod
its a built 2.0 and built trans dsm on 15psi.

and yes from a roll the trans am got me.

will change once I turn it up.
Built 2.0l, 20g and only 15psi?
It doesn't sound like you're making much power, any numbers?
I was pushing 24psi with an FP green in my GVR4.
Old 06-09-2010, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DiscerningZ32
Built 2.0l, 20g and only 15psi?
It doesn't sound like you're making much power, any numbers?
I was pushing 24psi with an FP green in my GVR4.
I'd guess he's making right around 300awhp.
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damn i miss my 1g gsx and 1g gst. the gsx was awesome stoplight to stoplight but the gst owned the highway
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Originally Posted by gregrob
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH THAT MUSTANG IS SLOW AS *****

and why the hell is this posted on LS1 TECH pretty sure I didn't see a single LS or even LT car in there...
Quit being a little whiny baby. Good runs OP
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
Honestly I've never seen street racing done on a 1/8 mile setup. Seriously? How did you guys talk that Regal and Mustang into running against a turbo AWD car on a 1/8 or less race?

Damn little talon did move out though. Good vids

BTW: I've never seen a grand national in white. I assume you are showing a Regal, right? Or was it just the GNX that was only in black? been awhile

If its white its a T-type or a turbo T.....both grand nationals and GNX's were only available in black.

And BTW if the regal knew how to launch worth a **** he would have given the talon a run for his money. The turbo buicks are mostly 1/8 mile cars, they can 60' like no other lead sled if launched right.
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Nice runs by the DSM. It's fun to watch peoples reactions to cars that were ruling the street in the late 80's and early 90's. A modded DSM can be more than a handfull for todays cars to handle in a short street race. Light weight, AWD and a turbo. I was suprised that the T-Type didnt close quickly after about 60 mph though.

Their are a handful of cars that dominated street racing in the early 90's. They include DSM's, Supras, turbo charged Buicks and 5.0 mustangs. Some of them are still fast by todays standards.

I know a guy that has a baby $hit brown 86 T-Type that runs 10.80s on a street tune. You would not look at his car twice in a parking lot. When I saw his car the only thing that caught my eye were the wheel studs sticking through the lugnuts. When I peered through the dark tinted windows I noticed the cage. His car is the slowest one in the local turbo Buick club.
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
If its white its a T-type or a turbo T.....both grand nationals and GNX's were only available in black.

And BTW if the regal knew how to launch worth a **** he would have given the talon a run for his money. The turbo buicks are mostly 1/8 mile cars, they can 60' like no other lead sled if launched right.
Partially correct. If it's white it's not a GN or GNX. However the GN came out in 1982 in a silver color. There were only around 100 of them, so most people don't really know of it especially since there were no GN's in 83. 84-87 they only came in black.

And yes, pretty much all 3.8's over the years are 1/8 motors...all torque, no top end.

I miss my old 95 TSi AWD every now and then. I never launched it hard because I was always broke back then and was afraid of snapping axles at 17psi. I mainly miss the turbo sound...makes me want a rear mount LS1
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^^^ Yer right, i guess im one that really only takes the 84-87s into account as GN's, 86-87 are the only ones worth a damn. The original GN prior to 84 were carbed motors.
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Originally Posted by DiscerningZ32
Built 2.0l, 20g and only 15psi?
It doesn't sound like you're making much power, any numbers?
I was pushing 24psi with an FP green in my GVR4.
a good guess i am making around 350awhp.

this turbo flows 50lbs/per min.

the 15psi is on E85.
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Originally Posted by prod
its a built 2.0 and built trans dsm on 15psi.

and yes from a roll the trans am got me.

will change once I turn it up.
Whats stopping u from turning it up?
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Originally Posted by OUTLAWZ RACING
Whats stopping u from turning it up?
nothing, just got it turned up today.

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Originally Posted by redws618
Here's the same talon against my cammed, stalled ws6. This run was from about 45-50 to 140.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M14mm...=youtube_gdata
Any idea of what your car does in the 1/4 mile, ET and Trap??
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
^^^ Yer right, i guess im one that really only takes the 84-87s into account as GN's, 86-87 are the only ones worth a damn. The original GN prior to 84 were carbed motors.
Yeah, the 86-87 were the top of a steep learning curve of turbos and intercoolers. Most of the 82's came with an anemic 4.1 anyway. I just like to be right...what man doesn't.
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Originally Posted by prod
a good guess i am making around 350awhp.

this turbo flows 50lbs/per min.

the 15psi is on E85.
Do you have aftermarket cams?

What's the compression ratio of your pistons?

What AFR are you tuned to at WOT?
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Originally Posted by Hotrod182
Any idea of what your car does in the 1/4 mile, ET and Trap??
In the 1/8 I ran a 7.8@90 at 3000 DA with the rev limiter hitting twice from the 1-2 shift, with that corrected I'm sure it would run .2 faster all day, quicker in better weather. I'm guessing with that fixed in good weather 11.7 maybe?
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Originally Posted by 1992TsiAWD
Do you have aftermarket cams?

What's the compression ratio of your pistons?

What AFR are you tuned to at WOT?
Ditto.

350awhp is a more than I'd expect with 15psi on a 20g.
I require more info.
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Lol @ people getting butt hurt that a little 4cyl is beating the turbo v6 GNX and the foxbody haha, get over it.

And if yall thought the DSM was fast, just wait !!!
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Originally Posted by BigMike214
Lol @ people getting butt hurt that a little 4cyl is beating the turbo v6 GNX and the foxbody haha, get over it.

And if yall thought the DSM was fast, just wait !!!
1) No one is upset with the DSM's win. A few people are discussing the cars and whatnot in question, but no one seems upset. I only saw one person complain that there weren't any LS cars in the races.

2) Who thought it was fast?

3) How is this DSM linked to you in any way?


It looks like you're defending a car that you don't own and that doesn't need defending.
Am I missing something?

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