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Old 08-05-2010, 02:05 PM
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Old 08-05-2010, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr370z
Oh I know exactly what he's trying to say but just something seems off. Maybe Ju1ce can comment?
The big battle cry for those 370Z's seems to be that "they run right with a stock LS1." There are some LS1 fbodies that run 13.8, no matter how much some people want to deny it. I'm just saying.
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And there are some ls1 fbodies that run bottom 13s and a few 370z have run bottom 13s. Does that mean they all run that? Certainly not! But there is nothing about fbodies in these posts so let's not go there. To be honest I'm just surpised the Genesis hung so well. I knew the GTO would put a good number of cars on the Z and I've heard his Regal is a strong running car. I'm just asking because I've seen a few times from Genesis owners and wasn't all that impressed.

On a side note, I'm not trying to say the fbody is a slower car I'm just mildly interested in the Genesis.
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Originally Posted by Mr370z
And there are some ls1 fbodies that run bottom 13s and a few 370z have run bottom 13s. Does that mean they all run that? Certainly not! But there is nothing about fbodies in these posts so let's not go there. To be honest I'm just surpised the Genesis hung so well. I knew the GTO would put a good number of cars on the Z and I've heard his Regal is a strong running car. I'm just asking because I've seen a few times from Genesis owners and wasn't all that impressed.

On a side note, I'm not trying to say the fbody is a slower car I'm just mildly interested in the Genesis.
My point wasn't to try and compare it to the fbody, only to show that they most likely don't all run bottom 13's. If some of them run mid to high 13's (especially on an average track, in the summer) then there's a good chance that a Regal that ran 13.2 @ 106 mph could put a couple cars on one and a Genesis that ran 13.9 @ 101 in hot air could be a good race. Also, the 7 speed trans helps keep it in it's powerband, but I'm sure there are still dead spots. I know my G8 has a 6-speed auto and there are still dead spots where it's low in the powerband.

I'm just saying that because the magazine dragstrip tests aren't showing the expected results in a roll race on the street doesn't necessarily mean that something is off
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Listen I'm not doubting anything...if ju1ce said it happened then it really happened but a Genesis hanging with a 370z? Tell anyone who has tracked their Z and they'll be scratching their heads too. And to be honest there's a difference if we were comparing times between a Z and a Genesis that are 6 months apart but... we're talking about a noticeably heavier car that's down on some power and hanging. And yeah I am saying the Z is faster than a Genesis.
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On this particular day at this time, with these drivers and in these cars... The Z was NOT faster than the Genesis.

I guess that's how it goes sometimes?
Old 08-05-2010, 05:12 PM
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Too often Ju1ce, far too often. So am I still crazy about driver mod? Automatic or manual, you can still fall asleep at the wheel...
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From what I saw that car wouldn't have gone faster with another driver. It was auto and all the runs were from a roll.
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Id like to find a v6 Genesis in my area but as far as I know that would be down for a 40+ roll. Nice kills though, what's your Regal run man?
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Originally Posted by Mr370z
Id like to find a v6 Genesis in my area but as far as I know that would be down for a 40+ roll. Nice kills though, what's your Regal run man?
It ran a 13.21 @ 106.31 smoking 1st gear. And 1st gear goes to 60mph.
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Haha man I bet you've made a number of people go home rethinking their cars
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I bet guy was sick losing to a sleep regal.

Z could have had a hot motor and full tank of gas who knows. Lots of variables when you race on the street

Nice kills!
Old 08-05-2010, 07:17 PM
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1/4 times and street racing encounters should only be loosely compared. A lot of those guys who run the quickest times for 'stock' are prepping the car for the track. IE; lowering tire pressure, removing weight, running the tank extra low, icing down before runs, etc...

Wanna know what your car "really" runs? Roll out in full street trim from the highway to the tree.
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hope that kid knows he has s$%tty brakes those 370s are dangerously underfitted with brakes
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Lol the Z has great brakes...the issue is brake cooling. The way they designed the car makes it difficult for the brakes to cool off. Stillen claims to have designed some amazing unprecedented thing to help with cooling the brakes but hasn't released much information after that.

But yeah anything can happen on the street.
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Stillen probably copied the "Kangaroo Paw" design and is hyping the **** out of it.
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Originally Posted by Ju1ce
Stillen probably copied the "Kangaroo Paw" design and is hyping the **** out of it.
I don't think so.

Taken from the Stillen website. It's part of the description of their front fascia they developed for the 370z:

Originally Posted by Stillen
Modular Vents
These Vents work in conjunction with a Brake Cooling Kit currently in Development. Also the Modular Vents follow the same lines as the OEM Nissan 370Z "Fangs" to provide a more Factory look.
I suppose calling it a brake cooling kit could mean that it would be more than replacing the rotors but who knows? I was hoping they'd release more information by now but I guess not~
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For whatever reason, the 370Zs front calipers are in the front of the rotor, rather than the rear like almost every other modern high performance car. I find that very odd.
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Originally Posted by Deuuuce
For whatever reason, the 370Zs front calipers are in the front of the rotor, rather than the rear like almost every other modern high performance car. I find that very odd.
I never actually noticed that before: good eye! There's only one other car I found has the front calipers in front of the rotor and is somewhat "sporty."



I figured caliper placement may have something to do with cooling, proper air flow, and probably weight distribution? Like you said look at ANY high performance car and the front calipers are in the exact same position for all the ones I've paid attention to. Who knows why the Z has them placed there?
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I've got to post in here because for the last two nights, I've had run ins on my way to work. Same place, same pace. I work 3rd shift and have to cross a 4 lane bridge every night before I make it to the job. Sunday night I ran into a Regal GS and pulled about 2 cars from 20-80. Monday night I pulled a 370Z much much worse from a similar roll.

I've got no clue what's done to either but I'll probably find the GS lurking somewhere as I see it from time to time. It definitely faired better than the Z which surprised me. The fucked up thing is that I can't give my car more than around 80% from a roll or the Check Engine light will flash shift solinoid codes and acceleration will cease to be. From a dig it just pegs the limiter. (no tune after Yank 3500)

It's been awhile since I've had some action around here so it's nice to rack a couple up. I haven't been to the track since my gears and stall, but I'd expect mid 12s on street tires and bottom bottom 12s on radials with a decent hook. Maybe 11.9999999999s at Atco with mineshaft air, a tailwind and a miracle.


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