F8L BYT

Yes sir

Wrong, I went 13.3 @ 103 with the mods listed minus 4.10's

With the 4.10's best time to date was a 12.89 @ 106

Oh yea and thats with road race suspension and could only get a 1.8 60'

Irunelevens

With some work, I'm sure you could get that down to a 12.7.

headed-ws6

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I agree with those 4.10's and a nice set of dr's that yellow cobra is a high-mid 12 sec car no problem. Here I am sticking up for a ford

Irunelevens

Don't mistake knowing about cars with "sticking up" for anything

DiscerningZ32

I know they're extremely rare. I stated that in my previous post.
I was just giving an example of how Ford has always been capable of making a potent NA powerplant.

A 96-07 Cobra and an LT1 f-body is easily a driver's race.

Same thing goes for a Mach 1 and an 01 Cobra Vs. an LS1 f-body.

BODUKE

It would have been nice if ford had made those motors standard in the '95 Gt
and '00 mustang. Less compare the motors in the standard production cars! The only way the mach 1 would take an ls1 f body is if the mach 1 owner had 3.73 3.90 or 4.30 gears ,with stock gears no chance.

BODUKE

Are you still spraying nitrous?

DiscerningZ32

So you're basically saying I'm right, but certain cars Ford produced 'don't count' because they're limited production? That doesn't make sense and they are "standard production," whatever that means. They were produced by Ford and available to anyone that wanted one. You said Ford needed a supercharger to keep up in the past, I showed you an example of how that's wrong, regardless of how few they made.

If you don't know that the Mach 1 is a drivers race with an LS1 f-body, stock vs. stock, then I really don't see the point in continuing this discussion. You're just going to disagree with anything said or come up with some sort of closed-minded excuse.

Intervention302

Lets get back on topic guys...

I was almost impressed how mature this "debate" was

brians91formula

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I was thinking the exact same thing.

Intervention302

We need to get you some drag radials so we can have an "apples to apples" run at the track!

BlackBirds

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Of course that's the reason the LS1 makes less peak horsepower than the 5.0, if you haven't realized it the LS1 is a 13 year old engine! And it still makes only 50hp less than the 5.0, cam and headers and you're there. If you want to compare apples to apples put the 5.0 against the LS3, which makes 430hp. Whoops, looks like Ford looses again.

Although I will say its cool Ford makes that much power out of 5 Liters, but that's what you get with DOHC.

Intervention302

On my tuners dyno... His brother owns a 2010 Camaro SS with intake, kooks full exhaust, and a custom tune. He made ~402RWHP on his dyno. He said he was impressed and never would have thought the 5.0 would put more down than his brother's SS from similar mods

Granted, that sounds low, but thats what it put down. Its not like the tune was off, its his brother's car so you know its right

Irunelevens

There are still those that could mess it up...
Whew! That was close. Please just accept that the 5.0 is a nice engine and makes good power. There don't have to be the "Well it's a Ford so it's ok" lines thrown in there. If this motor was a GM design everybody would be all over it.

Mike Morris

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I rather have a 5.0 than a 5th gen LS3 any day of the week. The 5th gen is simply too heavy even though it has the cubes. Mustang can be faster due to less weight and gets better MPG at the same time. The Mustang is a better buy if you are a speed junkie.

Disagree big time about LT1 SSs being faster than Cobras. My best time in a non 98 Cobra(for some reason they are faster) is 13.40 at 104MPH at Cecil. Best time in a stock M6 was 13.67 at 102 MPH which was norma back in the day. You need to slip clutch high and and shift right at the limiter. I have seen back in the day many Cobra runs mid 13s or lower. Mike Smith and Bob Cosby did it all the time in their 98s as well. A dual cat stripper hardtop LT1 could run mid 13s and trap 101-103 MPH. Most SSs were slower since they were heavier. A good race for sure but the Cobra due to being hard to launch had the edge with good driving.
I raced against Mike Smith many time with even CAI Lt1 and even with him at times in other stock Cobras and lost

WSsick

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I wouldn't say that just yet. Wait until we see how a heads & cams 5.0 runs to make that judgment. In most cases, OHC motors do not pick up the same gains and an OHV will from a cam(s) swap. Also, we haven't seen the strokers come out for it yet either, if their will be any. The 5oh is impressing me a lot, and I hope it keeps responding to mods this well without having to go to boost. Can't wait for the DI provision in the heads to be used

However, back to the main point, I would rather have an LSx motor myself, but lose some weight. Hopefully the Alpha Camaro drop some serious weight, then I would for sure be a buyer by then. I think for now, they are still on somewhat a level playing field, but as the stang (and their drivers, tuners, etc.) gain more experience with it, the 5oh will jump out ahead......just in time for the GEN V powered Alpha!

Badguy7

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This was expected from the very beginning, just took some time to start up. It always happens when its a GM vs Ford thread. It never stops, some retard will come in and put down Ford. Then the Ford Boys come in and back it up and all the **** starts lol No one can just let the stupid **** go and stay on topic.

Badguy7

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Really? Your going to compare the factory hp ratings? I havent seen a 2010 SS put down the number's this 5.0 did with just those few mods & tune.

Intervention302

Pretty much the same thing my tuner said...

DiscerningZ32

Isn't the 2012 Mustang Boss 302 5.0L supposed to make 440hp???