LS2 GTO vs 2011 5.0
01-12-2011, 05:24 PM
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seems you found the lowest dyno for a manual transmission (im taking your word for it that its a manual, but i have my doubts still since those are auto-type numbers). 350rwhp??pfffffft LOL
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01-12-2011, 05:36 PM
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01-12-2011, 05:45 PM
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Go watch Fox News.
Oh and Jim Cramer is a huge stock guru, get all your financial advice from him.
None of those dyno sheets hold any value since they don't show the conditions of the run and the correction factor that was used. Like I said before the CF's are abused to **** especially by places/magazines with an agenda such as vendors, shops, and fanboi mags. Which is exactly the place you got your info. All you did by proving Mustang Fanboi Magazine got more power in 4th than in 5th is that they are not a reputable source of information since that finding is just wrong.
Oh, and they used a Dynapack, which is the easily the highest reading dyno out there without messing with CF's.
Oh and Jim Cramer is a huge stock guru, get all your financial advice from him.
None of those dyno sheets hold any value since they don't show the conditions of the run and the correction factor that was used. Like I said before the CF's are abused to **** especially by places/magazines with an agenda such as vendors, shops, and fanboi mags. Which is exactly the place you got your info. All you did by proving Mustang Fanboi Magazine got more power in 4th than in 5th is that they are not a reputable source of information since that finding is just wrong.
Oh, and they used a Dynapack, which is the easily the highest reading dyno out there without messing with CF's.
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01-12-2011, 05:51 PM
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Go watch Fox News.
Oh and Jim Cramer is a huge stock guru, get all your financial advice from him.
None of those dyno sheets hold any value since they don't show the conditions of the run and the correction factor that was used. Like I said before the CF's are abused to **** especially by places/magazines with an agenda such as vendors, shops, and fanboi mags. Which is exactly the place you got your info.
Oh and Jim Cramer is a huge stock guru, get all your financial advice from him.
None of those dyno sheets hold any value since they don't show the conditions of the run and the correction factor that was used. Like I said before the CF's are abused to **** especially by places/magazines with an agenda such as vendors, shops, and fanboi mags. Which is exactly the place you got your info.
all 5.0 dynos are inflated and all LS dynos are correct, i shoulda known.
01-12-2011, 05:52 PM
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01-12-2011, 05:54 PM
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I've watched first hand friends (well not anymore) of mine who work dynos play with the CF to show customers their tune was the best. It's ****** stealing and lying and it happens EVERYWHERE. If you're wondering why the baseline should be high to start it's so their final number is always higher than the next guy. Which is why you have stock dynos ranging from Joe Schmoe going to his local Mustang dyno and putting down a legit 335-340whp, to Joe Steal Your Business Shop L33T tunes putting down 395 stock.
Where are you gonna go? Somewhere that a tune gets you to 360-370whp or somewhere that you can lay down 430 with a catback and a tune?
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01-12-2011, 06:06 PM
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Really intelligent comment you have there. As to your post above, it's a no-brainer that dyno shops can inflate #'s and make there dyno read higher than others, I'm sure you didn't find that one out of a car magazine, congrats!
01-12-2011, 06:08 PM
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No one ever said all LS dynos are correct. But I could show you easily how my headers/tune GTO can put down 410whp SAE (when in reality it truly put down around 380). I'd have a dyno slip to prove it, **** I could even tell everyone I'm a l33t tuner with my HP tuners and make an assload of money off the sheep, isn't that what most shops are all about?
I've watched first hand friends (well not anymore) of mine who work dynos play with the CF to show customers their tune was the best. It's ****** stealing and lying and it happens EVERYWHERE. If you're wondering why the baseline should be high to start it's so their final number is always higher than the next guy. Which is why you have stock dynos ranging from Joe Schmoe going to his local Mustang dyno and putting down a legit 335-340whp, to Joe Steal Your Business Shop L33T tunes putting down 395 stock.
Where are you gonna go? Somewhere that a tune gets you to 360-370whp or somewhere that you can lay down 430 with a catback and a tune?
I've watched first hand friends (well not anymore) of mine who work dynos play with the CF to show customers their tune was the best. It's ****** stealing and lying and it happens EVERYWHERE. If you're wondering why the baseline should be high to start it's so their final number is always higher than the next guy. Which is why you have stock dynos ranging from Joe Schmoe going to his local Mustang dyno and putting down a legit 335-340whp, to Joe Steal Your Business Shop L33T tunes putting down 395 stock.
Where are you gonna go? Somewhere that a tune gets you to 360-370whp or somewhere that you can lay down 430 with a catback and a tune?
01-12-2011, 06:18 PM
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I'm not trying to get in a dyno war here, but numbers are numbers. They very from dyno to dyno and are only good for giving you a baseline when modding to see what you are picking up. The 5.0 is a hell of a car and from what I'm seeing they run mid to high twelves pretty consistently. I've read reports that they are also underrated from factory much like how the ls1's in the fbody were years ago.
01-12-2011, 06:20 PM
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I'm not trying to get in a dyno war here, but numbers are numbers. They very from dyno to dyno and are only good for giving you a baseline when modding to see what you are picking up. The 5.0 is a hell of a car and from what I'm seeing they run mid to high twelves pretty consistently. I've read reports that they are also underrated from factory much like how the ls1's in the fbody were years ago.
01-12-2011, 06:43 PM
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It's a delicate process. They want the numbers to be higher so the end number is higher. If they just blatantly ran it to both extremes people would ask more questions.
01-12-2011, 06:54 PM
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you know i never did a tune only dyno run. i wish i had i guess. the dyno i went to specializes in ricers. hes done a few 5.0's. he doesnt tune them just dyno sessions. my drive-it-in and dyno 398 is believable. i did it hot because i wanted to know real world as-driven daily numbers.
next time im going to cool it so coolant temps are 170 at run time and the car is cool. its gonna be a hero run. a/f datalogging puts it near perfect as is. nice thing coyotes COME with widebands stock.
i dont think i will beat every ls2 i run into. gonna lose some and win some.
next time im going to cool it so coolant temps are 170 at run time and the car is cool. its gonna be a hero run. a/f datalogging puts it near perfect as is. nice thing coyotes COME with widebands stock.
i dont think i will beat every ls2 i run into. gonna lose some and win some.
01-12-2011, 07:00 PM
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there is a back to back 4th gear and 5th gear dyno run. 3 minutes or so apart with no shut down. 5th is always higher.
the 383.54 run was 4th gear, the other two were 5th gear. call the dyno operator and see.
he did it in 4th because he didnt know 5th was 1:1.