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Old 03-04-2011, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Ju1ce
If you believe all that you'll be really disappointed when you get rocked by a stock 99 GT and average 20mpg.
The fuel economy numbers seem high, but it would be a fun all around car.

As far as a stock GT...i don't know about that one.

I'd probably go with a regular civic for the lower purchase cost and insurance costs anyway, so no chasing mustangs.

I had a conversation with my insurance company last week, and it would cost me more to insure a Civic Si than an 05 GTO (cross shopping because i'm considering a GTO or an eco car and a bike on the side). That's insane, but when you think about the number of morons that buy civics...
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Yeah insurance for the sport compacts is outrageous. You may as well get a Z06, costs the same as a Civic SI.
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Yeah, I'm not sure how it would pull on a 99-04 GT. Maybe on the highway against an auto GT that punched it and just sat there for a second while the it downshifted?
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new stock civic si couldnt even beat my friends volvo 850 that only has a tune....i doubt its beating a 2v mustang gt stock for stock
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Originally Posted by Ju1ce
If you believe all that you'll be really disappointed when you get rocked by a stock 99 GT and average 20mpg.
Road & Track says: mpg - 22/31 mpg (worst of ALL sub compact sport cars)

So does this make the new Civic Si a high-revving screamer? You bet, and we love it. The Si now has the much-needed speed to compete in the pocket-rocket market, ripping off 0-60 mph in 6.8 seconds and running through the quarter mile in 15.1 at 94.6 mph. And it's 0.8 sec. quicker to 60 and through the quarter mile than the last Si we tested in the July 2002 issue.

Think he was just pulling our chains, because everything he said is obviously bogus. Interior is just as cramped as any other sub compact, too.
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I do like how the new civic SI's finally have the 200 HP version of the K series engine. Too bad they are not the lightest car on the road. A buddy of mine got his *** handed to him in his bolt on Scion TC by a new civic SI the other day though.
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Originally Posted by Ju1ce
If you believe all that you'll be really disappointed when you get rocked by a stock 99 GT and average 20mpg.
So who can't drive and they do know the Si's have more then 3 gears right? 20mpg??? I mean really......... I don't exaggerate. No need too. The Si isn't much but my god you have alot of faith in a not so fast mustang.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...8/ae309c9f.mp4

My buddies Stock 4dr Si vs exhaust/intake GT. I mean i'm sure you'll make whatever excuse you want but just do some research. Besides the mustang having the dead stop advantage the Si's will trap just the same if not a lil better in most cases. Been in too many winning races with em to call it luck or driver error. Oh well think what ya want.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhAM_XtVP3Y

Here's our cai Si vs an new auto RS camaro. We never got a good clean run but this was the closest too it out of the 3 runs. RS had us by a fender one race, and we had the other 2. On this run i was catching up to him after he did a flyby losing the 1st time. It looks like i jumped him big but if you watch closely I slowed down to get beside just before he took off again so i just laid back into it. Still the lil 2.0 had enough to pull back by about half a car before he let out or hit his limiter. Yes i know i sound like a punk *** ricer btw. I was really suprised at the outcome. lol Regardless the Si is a decently fast car stock for what it is and what i offers as a good all around daily.
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Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ
Yeah, I'm not sure how it would pull on a 99-04 GT. Maybe on the highway against an auto GT that punched it and just sat there for a second while the it downshifted?
You guys haven't ran many 99GT's have ya. lol They're actually my fav body style mustang but they are not at all that fast for a V8.

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new stock civic si couldnt even beat my friends volvo 850 that only has a tune....i doubt its beating a 2v mustang gt stock for stock
watch the vid. I'm sure you can find many other vids too.

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Road & Track says: mpg - 22/31 mpg (worst of ALL sub compact sport cars)

So does this make the new Civic Si a high-revving screamer? You bet, and we love it. The Si now has the much-needed speed to compete in the pocket-rocket market, ripping off 0-60 mph in 6.8 seconds and running through the quarter mile in 15.1 at 94.6 mph. And it's 0.8 sec. quicker to 60 and through the quarter mile than the last Si we tested in the July 2002 issue.

Think he was just pulling our chains, because everything he said is obviously bogus. Interior is just as cramped as any other sub compact, too.
Everycar has a certain rpm/gear/injector rate that is absolute sex. Do some looking on 8thgencivic.com and you'll see that at 64-65mph the Si will knock down 40 or slightly better no problem. As far as around town, drive sensible and it'll do great. There have been numerous stock Si's run high to mid 14's bone stock. Best i've seen is 14.59 @96. Best i've had ours is 9.5@ 77 in the 1/8th spinning terribly. 2.5 60ft....yuck. I'll see if i got the vid somewhere. Car and Driver got 14.9 on the Si vs GTI article.



I don't have anything to gain or lose by talking about his daily econobox like its a racecar or a diesel bug. I just speak facts. People will see what they wanna see and believe what they wanna believe. No reason to lie. Take it for what you will.
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Originally Posted by RhizzleDizzle
You guys haven't ran many 99GT's have ya. lol They're actually my fav body style mustang but they are not at all that fast for a V8.


Those are actually my least fav body style minus the 03-04 cobras. I owned a 2008 mustang GT though so I'm a lot more partial to those. I actually also really like the SN95 body style as well......call me crazy lol. But hey not everyone is going to like the same things!
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Originally Posted by RhizzleDizzle
...the Si's will trap just the same if not a lil better in most cases.
Originally Posted by RhizzleDizzle
Best i've seen is 14.59 @96.
I've never seen a 99-04 GT trap that low...
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Originally Posted by RhizzleDizzle
watch the vid. I'm sure you can find many other vids too.
heres my friends 850 volvo tune only vs stock? new civic si
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdrRS...el_video_title

Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ
I've never seen a 99-04 GT trap that low...
i was thinking the same thing
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Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ
I've never seen a 99-04 GT trap that low...
Exactly. 96mph at the best? pffft. That's in the range of 1980's era 5.0 mustang GT's. Rated at 210-220 crank hp.
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Honestly, slow car races are just as entertaining to watch and be in as faster cars.
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Originally Posted by WSsick
Honestly, slow car races are just as entertaining to watch and be in as faster cars.
Very true. A good race is a good race regardless of the horsepower of the cars involved.
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well like i say guys it is what it is. I don't have anything i need to prove. Just stating simple facts based on personal experience. Experiences with others may vary. BTW don't most stock GT's trap 98ish mph with proper driver? No different from new V6 camaro's. You all act like the GT is WAY faster then i'm comparing too and thats not the case at all. Plus as i've stated about the Si, its roll speed is much better then its dead stop. The Si's suck ***** below 50. Vtec doesn't engage untill 6k and as short as 1st gear is you basically get nothing from it. 2nd is ok but just stating that i can put that Si (or anyone who can actually drive one) up against a 98-99 trap car anyday of the week and it be a drivers race. There's nothing exaggerated about that. I dont know why you all act like i'm stating something so far fetched. A 99 GT is not that fast. It will beat the civic in the 1/8th all and most cases in the 1/4 from a dead stop depending on driver but otherwise its not gonna pull from an Si. Power/weights are extremely close. Anyways i'm done with it.
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Originally Posted by WSsick
Honestly, slow car races are just as entertaining to watch and be in as faster cars.
Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ
Very true. A good race is a good race regardless of the horsepower of the cars involved.
i very much agree with that. If you love to race then it almost doesn't matter. You just like good competition. We've had ALOT of fun in the slow *** civic. lol
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Originally Posted by RhizzleDizzle
Power/weights are extremely close.
I don't think they are, but I respect your choice to end the debate.
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2000 mustang gt weight- 3237 lbs (5spd coupe)
2009 civic si weight- 2954lbs

2000 mustang gt HP/TQ- 260/302
2009 civic si HP/TQ- 197/139
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The 2000's r really that light??
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Everything I found on them placed them in that range too, but I would guess closer to 3400 lbs. Also, I found a Honda site that had the Si listed as 2895 lbs. Probably the difference between the 2 door and the 4 door.

Even if we say the Civic is 2800 and the Mustang is 3400, it's 14.21 lbs/hp for the Civic vs 13.08 lbs/hp for the Mustang. If you put a 200 lbs driver in both cars then it gets worse for the Civic. Also, this only takes peak power into account.


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