Turbo Civic vs 05 Mustang GT and 03 Cobra
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11-15-2011, 06:00 PM
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My family had an iron duke celebrity that lasted over 250k miles with virtually nothing needed, until my brother t-boned someone in it.
We also had a Ford Escort that lasted over 200k miles before my sister hit a guard rail during a snow storm.
Maybe we were just lucky.
BTW, I don't let my siblings near any of my cars...
We also had a Ford Escort that lasted over 200k miles before my sister hit a guard rail during a snow storm.
Maybe we were just lucky.
BTW, I don't let my siblings near any of my cars...
11-16-2011, 04:08 PM
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I remember making an excel spreadsheet for mods for a GSR. I had almost $3K in parts, all "go-fast" parts, but didn't see much to speed things up. Fuel rail, header, exhaust, intake, intake manifold, etc. Did the same with a DSM, and saw 13's.
11-17-2011, 12:10 AM
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To try to get this back towards topic. OP, what aside from engine stuff have you done? Tranny axle, front end, fuel pump, etc. What are your next mods, or are you done? Any thoughts of water injection or nitrous?
11-17-2011, 12:18 AM
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If I stay in Indiana for work I'll probably go E85 which means bigger injectors and fuel pump. I want to get a better flowing exhaust manifold and a different head. Should pick up alot of power just from that. If I can make over 400whp on 15psi I'll be very happy.
I may throw some NOS into the equation at some point for those really fast cars (aka another honda I wont name lol).
11-17-2011, 07:16 AM
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11-17-2011, 10:19 AM
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Lightning, i read about your knock issues on 30psi awhile back. I ended up having a similar problem when running 30psi on pump gas, but my detonation was much less severe. I've come to the conclusion that above 25-27psi on pump and you really start to discover the instability in garbage 93 octane, and have to increase the margin of safety in the tune by about 2* of timing retard.
At 25psi i can tune the car to flirt with the knock threshold and have no problems. At 30psi i stretched the ARP head studs with the same type of tune. I'm currently running 27psi with 2* less than i was running at 30psi, and the motor is completely reliable, but it's just not making the power i want. I'm probably around 410awhp on pump gas. I'm going to add meth to the mix and retune around 32psi and see how the car runs. If it can't trap 130+ on 93/meth in the spring this turbo is for sale and i'll go considerably larger.
Unfortunately a lot of them do break when ghetto built cars that make some power run slicks and drop the clutch at 6k on stock components, but the same goes for any car. A 10-bolt isn't going to survive that crap either.
He only runs street tires.
At 25psi i can tune the car to flirt with the knock threshold and have no problems. At 30psi i stretched the ARP head studs with the same type of tune. I'm currently running 27psi with 2* less than i was running at 30psi, and the motor is completely reliable, but it's just not making the power i want. I'm probably around 410awhp on pump gas. I'm going to add meth to the mix and retune around 32psi and see how the car runs. If it can't trap 130+ on 93/meth in the spring this turbo is for sale and i'll go considerably larger.
He only runs street tires.
11-17-2011, 10:19 AM
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Stock B series tranny's will hold 600whp all day if you keep it easy on the street and preload right at the track. Stock axles are iffy if you dont know how to launch right. Alot of people rock them all day with no issues, others break em every other time. The K series trannys are like glass though. My buddy gabe with the 630whp civic was fine until he got some good tires for the street. Now that he hooks up he upped to boost in higher gears and keeps blowing 4th gear out.
If the transmission does go you can find them for 200-300 a piece used. Theres no justification to upgrading gears and stuff when that will just move the force to the case which will crack and **** up the nice gears you just bought.
You have to understand going much more then 600whp is just getting unusable on the street. That amount of power in a light *** car will handle pretty much everything to modded hyabusas, and gabes car is a perfect example.
If the transmission does go you can find them for 200-300 a piece used. Theres no justification to upgrading gears and stuff when that will just move the force to the case which will crack and **** up the nice gears you just bought.
You have to understand going much more then 600whp is just getting unusable on the street. That amount of power in a light *** car will handle pretty much everything to modded hyabusas, and gabes car is a perfect example.
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11-17-2011, 10:22 AM
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Lightning, i read about your knock issues on 30psi awhile back. I ended up having a similar problem when running 30psi on pump gas, but my detonation was much less severe. I've come to the conclusion that above 25-27psi on pump and you really start to discover the instability in garbage 93 octane, and have to increase the margin of safety in the tune by about 2* of timing retard.
At 25psi i can tune the car to flirt with the knock threshold and have no problems. At 30psi i stretched the ARP head studs with the same type of tune. I'm currently running 27psi with 2* less than i was running at 30psi, and the motor is completely reliable, but it's just not making the power i want. I'm probably around 410awhp on pump gas. I'm going to add meth to the mix and retune around 32psi and see how the car runs. If it can't trap 130+ on 93/meth in the spring this turbo is for sale and i'll go considerably larger.
Unfortunately a lot of them do break when ghetto built cars that make some power run slicks and drop the clutch at 6k on stock components, but the same goes for any car. A 10-bolt isn't going to survive that crap either.
He only runs street tires.
At 25psi i can tune the car to flirt with the knock threshold and have no problems. At 30psi i stretched the ARP head studs with the same type of tune. I'm currently running 27psi with 2* less than i was running at 30psi, and the motor is completely reliable, but it's just not making the power i want. I'm probably around 410awhp on pump gas. I'm going to add meth to the mix and retune around 32psi and see how the car runs. If it can't trap 130+ on 93/meth in the spring this turbo is for sale and i'll go considerably larger.
Unfortunately a lot of them do break when ghetto built cars that make some power run slicks and drop the clutch at 6k on stock components, but the same goes for any car. A 10-bolt isn't going to survive that crap either.
He only runs street tires.
If you do go bigger let me know and I can give you the contact info for the guys that built my turbo. Its very responsive for a 64 lb/min unit
11-17-2011, 11:38 AM
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I have'nt had a need for a tr6060..I don't have enough power as the engine is a stock ls6 to worry about upgrading it. I have a stock ls7 ready to go in so I called liberty and they said even that is fine for a t56.