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Old 08-04-2011, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Well you can't say new Gt and a 5.0 and think they are different. As said the 5.0 is a GT. So say a 2010 GT and a 2011 GT 5.0. SO to say there is a difference your sound like a retard and some one who knows **** about what your talking about. Specially when turn and say there is a difference between the 5.0 and new 4.6 liter Gt. Then try come back with stupid as well its a 2010 its new to a 2000. SO again know what you are talking about.
Agreed a NEW GT is a 5.0, a 4.6 GT isnt a new car.

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Now nice kill. Your mods did help a lot. Specially since you said teh 5.0 has some spin. Spinning isn't winning. But being you have the mods you do have are not minor bolt ons. That would be like cat back, cold air. Stall is not a minor bolt on, specially with a full drag suspension, true trac, fully built tranny, LT's, LS6 intake. Ya that are all minor simple bolt ons.
Actually an intake and longtubes are very simple bolt ons, a 13 year old could do those in the backyard. Only thing I would even consider on his car to not be simple would be his built tranny.
Old 08-04-2011, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by necrocannibal
Agreed a NEW GT is a 5.0, a 4.6 GT isnt a new car.



Actually an intake and longtubes are very simple bolt ons, a 13 year old could do those in the backyard. Only thing I would even consider on his car to not be simple would be his built tranny.
If you look I said LT's and intake was. Built tranny and 3.73 true trac and the drag suspension isn't.
Old 08-04-2011, 12:52 PM
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Not trying to take away anything from a good kill but dont come on determined that you know what your talking about and have no clue. They look almost the same(other then the 5.0 badge) 2010-2011 but the 2011 is the 5.0 motor. The 2010 is a 4.6 GT and the 2011 is a 5.0 GT. Going from about 315hp to 412hp is a big difference and racing one i can tell you they are very fast even auto being bone stock they do really well.










Originally Posted by silverado.408
My mode ls6 intake plugs wires custom true dual 3.73 eaton posi killer dunk tune 3600 stall. Level 2 trans full drag suspension and lid. And there is a difference between a 5.0 and new gt the gt is 4.6 liters. Know your info
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Originally Posted by silverado.408
As for the 5.0 he managed to stay on my bumper then I shut down (120 on a city street isn't safe) the 5.0 does the signature **** head fly bye and turns at the next light. The gt follows me to shell and begins drooling over my car. All In a trip
So you're doing 120, he's on your bumper, and you hit the brakes or let off and he does a "fly-by?" That's called you let off and he's still on the gas at a high speed. That's going to happen in any race where there isn't a specific ending point.

Good kill on the 5.0.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
If you look I said LT's and intake was. Built tranny and 3.73 true trac and the drag suspension isn't.
In most cases you won't see any real gains from a "built" 4L60E honestly. The benefits come with the upgraded parts capable of handling the increased power, or improve longevity of the transmission itself since the 60E is not too stout even on a lightly modded F-body...not a real noticeable gain in acceleration, in most cases maybe a tenth or so if you're lucky. Not sure if you're saying you don't count it because of the difficulty of installation or because you think it does wonders for 1/4 mile or what? You can elaborate on that.

As for 3.73s in an auto and locker, again very minimal gains. Doesn't make them any different because they're a bit complex to install. I can knock a ring/pinion swap out in a couple hours on an F-body and that's taking my time. I'd count those two on the list of simple bolt-ons too. Lastly, what do you mean by "drag suspension". What exactly does the setup in question consist of????

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Originally Posted by LT/LS Guy
In most cases you won't see any real gains from a "built" 4L60E honestly. The benefits come with the upgraded parts capable of handling the increased power, or improve longevity of the transmission itself since the 60E is not too stout even on a lightly modded F-body...not a real noticeable gain in acceleration, in most cases maybe a tenth or so if you're lucky.

As for 3.73s in an auto and locker, again very minimal gains. I'd count those two on the list of simple bolt-ons too. Lastly, what do you mean by "drag suspension". What exactly does the setup in question consist of????
Yes cause the rear end is a simple bolt in as with the built tranny and stall. I have seen a stall drop as much as .6 off 1/4 mile times. Combined with a better shifting tranny. That could be even a hair better on the high side. Also how many people actually do the rear gears them self? 1 out of 10? maybe 1 our of 20.

As far as drag suspension. That is what he said. I would say complete bushing, trailing arms, subframe connectors, lower control arms, springs, K member..this below plus odds and ends.

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Good kill OP.


Hate that the guy was a Tool to you; they are owners of every brand of car.
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The only part original on my suspension is the bolts that hold things together. I respect the new stangs (a lot) so don't think I'm just trying to clown. And for the trans and rear end the only thing I need other the hand tools with was to press on my bearings as for everything else right in my garage
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Nice one! I had to teach one a lesson a few days ago..I think the new Mustang owners are all trigger happy because they haven't had anything fast since the Terminators...Definately nothing n/a...only f/i models...But the new 5.0's are quick!
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One more for the f-bodz. Anything can happen in the streets. Nice job!
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Yes cause the rear end is a simple bolt in as with the built tranny and stall. I have seen a stall drop as much as .6 off 1/4 mile times. Combined with a better shifting tranny. That could be even a hair better on the high side. Also how many people actually do the rear gears them self? 1 out of 10? maybe 1 our of 20.
Hmm..not seeing your logic. So just because a stall gives great gains it excludes it from being a simple bolt-on/in? That's plain silly. Do you know how easy it is to drop a tranny and bolt in a converter? That's about an hours worth of work. That's simpler than doing LT's for most guys. It just happens to be a very effective "simple" bolt on.

And to answer your second question, not exactly sure. I do know of a good number of members here that have the knowledge to do their own rear end work. Heck, you'd be suprised how many people can't even do a simple header swap on a F-body and instead pay a shop $500 to do it. Visit the newbie section sometime. As for the built tranny, yes I would say you've got a valid argument there but, like said before, don't expect any huge performance gains from a beefed up 4L60.

Originally Posted by Ohioborn80
As far as drag suspension. That is what he said. I would say complete bushing, trailing arms, subframe connectors, lower control arms, springs, K member..this below plus odds and ends.

https://securec20.ezhostingserver.co...&productid=340

https://securec20.ezhostingserver.co...&productid=346
Have to agree there. That's a great kit too!
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Here is my buddy running a new 5.0 a6, buddys car a 99 z28 m6, lid, tune, lt, exhaust and 5.0 shifter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwxyUaVUISw
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Here is the first runhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEg7M...x=5&playnext=6
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Op... Did the 5.0 have any mods? It seems he may have been a bit close to you to for him to be stock.

Nice kill in the vids.
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No mustang has beat my Z...4.6 or 5.0 same outcome...so F them haters....nice kill op
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Originally Posted by silverado.408
My mode ls6 intake plugs wires custom true dual 3.73 eaton posi killer dunk tune 3600 stall. Level 2 trans full drag suspension and lid. And there is a difference between a 5.0 and new gt the gt is 4.6 liters. Know your info
Originally Posted by silverado.408
I do have long tubes. And I understand the whole gt/ 5.0 thing but in my eyes a 10 gt is still new compare to a 00 z28
Oh man, that was great. Back-tracking like a ****. Good kill though... expected with your mods against a stock/stock-ish car.
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Jeez lol
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Originally Posted by Jaylighter23
No mustang has beat my Z...4.6 or 5.0 same outcome...so F them haters....nice kill op
Come north some I am sure we can show you are tail lights plenty of times.
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I have same outcome...funny cause stangers never learn...put a ls in ur stang then maybe u would have a chance.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Come north some I am sure we can show you are tail lights plenty of times.
You talk a lot of **** to have slicks, skinnies, full bolt-ons w/ a non-stock manifold, gears, weight reduction, suspension...and still be in the high 11's.


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