z28 vs new 5.0 and new gt
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Decently modded to run in the high 12's @ 110-112?!? That's bolt on territory man.
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Look im an LS guy (obviously). I used to own and was very proud of my 99 SSCamaro. Had a bad hydroplane accident that ended its life with only 68k![Bang Head](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_banghead.gif)
. Obviously i did not get a chance in that time (4 years ago) to race an unimagined 5.0 car. HOWEVER i raced lots of bolton LS cars and all sorts of crap. Im a car enthusiast thru n thru. Hell i just recently raced a 350+whp mid/upper 2000's honda civic SI. Honestly guys were saying he was close to 400. I dont know. I DO KNOW from a 40 to 140 sprint i only took him a car. What im getting at again is some of you LS1 guys in here seem a lil butt hurt at the fact ford got it right this time and its becoming painfully obvious that your simple bolton car just isnt going to be enough. Keep in mind fellas, this car is still new....I gotta hunch that these "supposed" kills on 5.0's with bare minimum mods will come to a hault this time around next year. For those that do legitamatley win. kudos to you. Bc its well built machine.....now for their tranny
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Look im an LS guy (obviously). I used to own and was very proud of my 99 SSCamaro. Had a bad hydroplane accident that ended its life with only 68k![Bang Head](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_banghead.gif)
. Obviously i did not get a chance in that time (4 years ago) to race an unimagined 5.0 car. HOWEVER i raced lots of bolton LS cars and all sorts of crap. Im a car enthusiast thru n thru. Hell i just recently raced a 350+whp mid/upper 2000's honda civic SI. Honestly guys were saying he was close to 400. I dont know. I DO KNOW from a 40 to 140 sprint i only took him a car. What im getting at again is some of you LS1 guys in here seem a lil butt hurt at the fact ford got it right this time and its becoming painfully obvious that your simple bolton car just isnt going to be enough. Keep in mind fellas, this car is still new....I gotta hunch that these "supposed" kills on 5.0's with bare minimum mods will come to a hault this time around next year. For those that do legitamatley win. kudos to you. Bc its well built machine.....now for their tranny![Lurk](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies3/lurk.gif)
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yeah ls1s can be had for pretty cheap and if youre patient, you can find one that was taken care of. However cam only setups arent only 300 bucks. If you do a cam only you probly wont be any faster than a bolt on ls1.
"Supporting mods" consist of springs and retainers/locks, rockers, rocker studs, headers, exhaust, intake etc. this easily adds up to over a grand maybe 2 depending on the parts you get.
I cant picture a proper cam only setup for under 500 bucks. Point is mods arent cheap when done right on any type of car.
And the way i see it, ls1s might be beating 5.0s left and right cus there are tons more modded ls1 than modded 5.0s. 2011s are still too new and chances are that you might be racing a stock or slightly modded 5.0. Yeah theres always the "stock" ls1 that walked a gt500 or im sure there a "stock" 3v gt that walked an ls1 over in the ford forums. We all know which car is faster than the other when stock so why try and fool each other?
Once mods kick in, the one who spends the most will most likely win.
"Supporting mods" consist of springs and retainers/locks, rockers, rocker studs, headers, exhaust, intake etc. this easily adds up to over a grand maybe 2 depending on the parts you get.
I cant picture a proper cam only setup for under 500 bucks. Point is mods arent cheap when done right on any type of car.
And the way i see it, ls1s might be beating 5.0s left and right cus there are tons more modded ls1 than modded 5.0s. 2011s are still too new and chances are that you might be racing a stock or slightly modded 5.0. Yeah theres always the "stock" ls1 that walked a gt500 or im sure there a "stock" 3v gt that walked an ls1 over in the ford forums. We all know which car is faster than the other when stock so why try and fool each other?
Once mods kick in, the one who spends the most will most likely win.
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Look im an LS guy (obviously). I used to own and was very proud of my 99 SSCamaro. Had a bad hydroplane accident that ended its life with only 68k![Bang Head](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_banghead.gif)
. Obviously i did not get a chance in that time (4 years ago) to race an unimagined 5.0 car. HOWEVER i raced lots of bolton LS cars and all sorts of crap. Im a car enthusiast thru n thru. Hell i just recently raced a 350+whp mid/upper 2000's honda civic SI. Honestly guys were saying he was close to 400. I dont know. I DO KNOW from a 40 to 140 sprint i only took him a car. What im getting at again is some of you LS1 guys in here seem a lil butt hurt at the fact ford got it right this time and its becoming painfully obvious that your simple bolton car just isnt going to be enough. Keep in mind fellas, this car is still new....I gotta hunch that these "supposed" kills on 5.0's with bare minimum mods will come to a hault this time around next year. For those that do legitamatley win. kudos to you. Bc its well built machine.....now for their tranny![Lurk](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies3/lurk.gif)
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This is the 2nd post that I have read from you and I said to myself, "this guy gets it."
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Those are really impressive times. What do they weigh compared to ls1 fbodys? Just curious. I'm glad the 11 gt is what it is, 2010 didn't run hard enough for the times IMO . But they were great cars, don't get me wrong, as far as overall performance and handling. I never thought I'd ever want a mustang, but teh 5.0 is the closest I've ever came to imagining it!
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Those are really impressive times. What do they weigh compared to ls1 fbodys? Just curious. I'm glad the 11 gt is what it is, 2010 didn't run hard enough for the times IMO . But they were great cars, don't get me wrong, as far as overall performance and handling. I never thought I'd ever want a mustang, but teh 5.0 is the closest I've ever came to imagining it!
I am arguing with a few people that are saying slicks/DR's are still stock car you just helping it hook. Cause one place is saying they have fastest "stock" Boss that ran 11.7. I said no cause you on slicks. SO it is not stock. My car was ran to a 12.1 on slicks that is not stock. Stock is way it came off the assembly line. Nothing else.
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Its LS1 anything can happen. I mean **** another thread a guy with basically a stock LS1 just beat a GT500. ![Icon Confused](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies2/icon_confused.gif)
The stories here really are funny sometimes. People wanted me to run a full bolt on LS1 and I did. Beat it from a dig with him hooking me spinning by about 5 cars till 75 and I let out. From a 20 roll 5 cars by 80 I let out. He posted the story. Then it was run a cammed one. I did and beat him and out trapped him by 4mph. But then people swear that LS1's stock or with cold air and cat back are beating 5.0's with tons of mods or stock and everything else.
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The stories here really are funny sometimes. People wanted me to run a full bolt on LS1 and I did. Beat it from a dig with him hooking me spinning by about 5 cars till 75 and I let out. From a 20 roll 5 cars by 80 I let out. He posted the story. Then it was run a cammed one. I did and beat him and out trapped him by 4mph. But then people swear that LS1's stock or with cold air and cat back are beating 5.0's with tons of mods or stock and everything else.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odJQAq7l-hI
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You know that LS1 with a Cold Air and cat back that beats a 5.0? It does exist. Here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odJQAq7l-hI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odJQAq7l-hI
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In the final race with no passengers in either car the WS6 pulls on and beats the Mustang by about half a car.