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Old 09-19-2011, 09:44 PM
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You don't need to shift your auto manually. Floor it on the second honk, just gotta time it right.
Than they will claim you jumped. It will pull harder if you hold it in gear I gurantee it
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Originally Posted by ls2foryou
I was just thinking about something . I remember when I bought my first ss new in 98 it was a 99 tho. it's been a long time since I have driven a stock 4th gen. when the ls 4th gen cars were new they ran good considering they ran pig rich and the timing was not crazy hot. they came that way from the plant.
the mustang has headers right out of the gate I'm sure the AF is less fat to. take an ls 4th gen and get her tuned in put long tubes and a good flowmaster or magna flow ect..... fix that lid and we may have a nice race. now the million dollar question is this......... if you had a fox body stang that was set up to take an LS3 or the coyote what engine would you have. I know I would have the big Ls hands down. the fith gen is not that far behind the 5.0 it traps the same in a car that is 400 lbs more
The tune is not that great on the 5.0s. They are gaining around 20whp with just a tune. Also the headers are pretty good but with LT's they are still picking up 20-25whp. So who fault is it that the Ford used better headers then Gm from the start?

If I had a old Fox I would use a 5.0. Its just a brand thing. If I had a old Camaro I would use the LS3.

Not sure where you get the are trapping the same though. Camaro's are trapping 108-110 and mustangs around 111-114. That of course is with drivers and track prep equal. Either can effect both those.
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Originally Posted by ls2foryou
if you had a fox body stang that was set up to take an LS3 or the coyote what engine would you have. I know I would have the big Ls hands down. the fith gen is not that far behind the 5.0 it traps the same in a car that is 400 lbs more

A few years ago; if it were between the N/A 4.6 and the LS3 as my only two options...I would pick the LS3. Now with the potential of the 5.0; I'll take the 5.0.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
The tune is not that great on the 5.0s. They are gaining around 20whp with just a tune. Also the headers are pretty good but with LT's they are still picking up 20-25whp. So who fault is it that the Ford used better headers then Gm from the start?

If I had a old Fox I would use a 5.0. Its just a brand thing. If I had a old Camaro I would use the LS3.
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I tried to get a friend to put a new 5.0 in his fox notch. He went with a 4.6 , I've helped him a little.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I tried to get a friend to put a new 5.0 in his fox notch. He went with a 4.6 , I've helped him a little.
The 4.6 is the cheaper route to start. Until you want forged internals and crap. When you wouldn't have needed them with the Coyote. And would have started with more power to begin with.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
The 4.6 is the cheaper route to start. Until you want forged internals and crap. When you wouldn't have needed them with the Coyote. And would have started with more power to begin with.
ohio....take a close look at the pic. It's a 03/04 cobra 4.6
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
The tune is not that great on the 5.0s. They are gaining around 20whp with just a tune. Also the headers are pretty good but with LT's they are still picking up 20-25whp. So who fault is it that the Ford used better headers then Gm from the start?

If I had a old Fox I would use a 5.0. Its just a brand thing. If I had a old Camaro I would use the LS3.

Not sure where you get the are trapping the same though. Camaro's are trapping 108-110 and mustangs around 111-114. That of course is with drivers and track prep equal. Either can effect both those.
I'm just going off what I have been reading. I had a fith gen for about two months. I sold the car.... I felt it was a little heavy. but it was new and not broken in before I sold to a friend. it was a Pete rose hit king camaro won it in a raffle
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I actually saw a Pete Rose here in Burbank Ca, red one, old dude driving it and seemed like a stick shift. I couldnt figure out if he did that to it or what. Your post explains it now.








Originally Posted by ls2foryou
I'm just going off what I have been reading. I had a fith gen for about two months. I sold the car.... I felt it was a little heavy. but it was new and not broken in before I sold to a friend. it was a Pete rose hit king camaro won it in a raffle
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
ohio....take a close look at the pic. It's a 03/04 cobra 4.6
How do you know for sure it's a 03/04 Cobra motor?
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
How do you know for sure it's a 03/04 Cobra motor?

Sure looks like one to me.
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The 2003-2004 Cobra motor is the S/C DOHC 4.6 right? I think I see a blower in the picture.
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So a 99 Cobra with an Eaton swap is a 03/04 Cobra motor? Sweet! Learn something new every day
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
So a 99 Cobra with an Eaton swap is a 03/04 Cobra motor? Sweet! Learn something new every day
Mechanically are the 2003-2004 Cobra motors any different than the N/A Cobra motors? I thought the supercharger was the only real addition...don't really know though.
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Iron block, forged H beams, forged pistons...
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terminators are forged. They make great power, they spin better thn a 5.4
best engine ford made.
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Originally Posted by ls2foryou
terminators are forged. They make great power, they spin better thn a 5.4
best engine ford made.
I wouldn't go that far. The new 5.4 handles more power and the Coyote motor is out shinning it as well. Not to mention the coyote and 5.4 (11+) are aluminum blocks. Saving much needed weight. Also they are spinning the 5.0 up to 8000rpm's now.
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
How do you know for sure it's a 03/04 Cobra motor?
Because he bought it out of a 03 or 04 cobra, with harness and t56.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Because he bought it out of a 03 or 04 cobra, with harness and t56.
Oh YA but that don't mean it is a cobra engine.....
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Oh YA but that don't mean it is a cobra engine.....
Someone just went though all of the trouble putting a eaton on a cobra engine, putting a t56 behind it and selling the cluster, harness,hvac box,heat exchanger out of a 03 cobra and sold it for $10k.... and did i mention it has an iron block also.

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Well im the owner of the notch. It takes an idiot to think that its not a cobra swap. but ohio im sure ur a member of modular fords and a member of that site is where it came from! look them up on ebay thats where he sells them from and at any given time you can see 2 or 3 wrecked 03-04s in the background. Mine had a video of it running in the 03 that was tboned! Your more then welcome to come see the forged internals and have a nice look at its taillights and rear bumper this coming spring!


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