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Old 09-27-2011, 10:14 AM
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I raced an 06 GT with muffler delete, cold air intake, and a ghetto 100 shot back before I put my converter in.

I was so far ahead at the 1/8th mile I thought he let off so I lifted, saw he was still WOT and hammered it again and pulled some more on him lol

I really wish I had that race on video.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
3Vs are a tick behind Mach 1s, all other things equal. But you guys have to remember, there are WAY more 3V Mustangs out there than LS1 F-bodies, so there are also tons of people with those cars that can't run the number. It really is as simple as that.
Most of the guys out here struggling to break into the 13's are auto cars. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but auto cars aren't too difficult to drive or race, correct? I also wouldn't consider high 1.9's 60fts on street tires too bad either. I was actually quite surprised at the numbers for all of the given conditions.

Or are the older 5-speed autos before Ford's new 6-speed auto in the 2011 GT really that big of junk?
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I can't say why they run what they run where you are located. As always, I am talking about what they run in good DA, and good track conditions. And of course a car with a manual and 3.55s is going to run harder than an automatic with a stock stall. Especially with drag radials.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
And of course a car with a manual and 3.55s is going to run harder than an automatic with a stock stall. Especially with drag radials.
So does that make stock auto 05-10 GT's high 13's-low 14 second cars?
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On most nights, that's about right. On a *perfect* day, mid 13s are possible I'm sure.
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
So does that make stock auto 05-10 GT's high 13's-low 14 second cars?
All the magazines I read when they came out were saying 13.6-13.9 for manuals and the autos a tenth or 2 behind. They praised the 05+ automatics for actually being pretty decent if I recall correctly.

I saw an auto with some exhaust work and maybe a filter run the 1000ft equivalent to 13.7 in -200DA very consistently.
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Yeah the mustang was a stick and seems like i need to get my car at the track to see what she will do numbers wise. Especially since i have a new monster clutch and tick master(gotta break it in of course)... maybe ill find a set of drag radials and make it interesting...lol anyone down around jacksonville or gainesvillea, fl area wanna join?
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OP I dont know why you thought you were going to lose. Its a bolt on 3v and he didnt have to many mods hes going to need more to keep up with you. And bolt on 3v's running 12's?

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Originally Posted by afastm6
Ford done a good job with the new 5.0 tho they run really well out of the factory
Has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand...
Old 09-29-2011, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by F-Body_4_Life
Has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand...
*shrugs*

It's kinda like everyone talking about the slow kid in class and someone points out his awesome new finger painting just so there's some positive talk in the air
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If you honestly don't believe a ~300rwhp Mustang with traction can't run 12s, I don't know what to tell you. Especially one with aftermarket gears (like I said in the first place). They have the ability to run mid 13s bone stock with 3.55s. With 40hp more and 4.10s, it's not exactly hard to believe.
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It's sad a ecotech cobalt can out a three valve I don't mean to come bad about fords but they are pigs. Even Begley Jr? Henry David Thoreau?
Uh, well as it turns out the President and COO of EcoMotors is John
Coletti, former director of Ford’s skunkworks performance division,
SVT. Coletti is the guy who made the 03 cobra said the 96-01 cobras were pathetic and they can outrun a three valve. With boltons they are just ok
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That post made almost no sense at all.
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He's trying to say Ford sucks in a nice way.
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That's the only part that made any sense
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Originally Posted by ls2foryou
It's sad a ecotech cobalt can out a three valve I don't mean to come bad about fords but they are pigs. Even Begley Jr? Henry David Thoreau?
Uh, well as it turns out the President and COO of EcoMotors is John
Coletti, former director of Ford’s skunkworks performance division,
SVT. Coletti is the guy who made the 03 cobra said the 96-01 cobras were pathetic and they can outrun a three valve. With boltons they are just ok
Out what?

If you wanna talk about pigs then Ford isnt who you should be talking about.
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Originally Posted by sepno77
He's trying to say Ford sucks in a nice way.
Thanks for helping them understand..... The trucks are great. The 5.0 is a dam good car. idontrunelevens seems to have a problem with some of us putting our two cents in on a shitty 3 valve. When i explain an F body should outrun one.......the then my post does not add up or im narrow minded. Sorry to tell ya but a the only stock ford that i know of that runs elevens is the gt 40 and thats it. I dont think a new gt500 will get the job done bone stock. So in conclusion three valve cars can run 12s with mods im not saying they wont but its not a fourth gen with mods
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You're arguing with nobody. Everybody here knows that a 3V is slower than an LS1 F-body. And everybody knows that margin increases with mods. But a 3V with the right mods (not even that many) is a damn good race with a stock F-body. They aren't THAT slow.
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No one is arguing bud.... Just trying to keep you in your place so you dont confuse any of our new members. I would not want them second guess themselves on that GM purchase that they have made or may be making.
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Keeping me in my place? Bahahaha! Oh man, that's great. You're the one that said a car was junk for the sole reason that they are half a second slower than another car.


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