2011 5.0 vs LS1 Z28 vs P1SC 2v GT *video*
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#42
Nice vids... However saying a stock 5.0> full bolt on ls1 is ignorant. The auto on the camaro took quite a while to downshift and get up into its powerband have it hold 2nd gear or put a stall in it and it would have been MUCH closer.
Also I'm pretty sure everyone here knows what happens when an equally powerful m6 ls1 races a stock stallled auto ls1... The auto gets raped, an m6 camaro against the 5.0 would have been one hell of a race and I say a slight edge to the ls1.
If you wanted to make the race a little more fair atleast make the 5.0 in that video an auto lol that way the downshift times would be similar.
By watching that video and saying stock 5.0> a4 or m6 bolt on ls1 is the joke of the year... the m6 would level the shifting capabilities of the m6 5.0 and a simple stall change would help level the A6 tranny in the 5.0 to the a4 in the camaro
Also I'm pretty sure everyone here knows what happens when an equally powerful m6 ls1 races a stock stallled auto ls1... The auto gets raped, an m6 camaro against the 5.0 would have been one hell of a race and I say a slight edge to the ls1.
If you wanted to make the race a little more fair atleast make the 5.0 in that video an auto lol that way the downshift times would be similar.
By watching that video and saying stock 5.0> a4 or m6 bolt on ls1 is the joke of the year... the m6 would level the shifting capabilities of the m6 5.0 and a simple stall change would help level the A6 tranny in the 5.0 to the a4 in the camaro
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Yes he did, right around/a bit over 100mph.
Me (when I only trapped 108) vs a WS6 with the same mods as the Camaro in this video, from a 25 roll:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WDBqzWiABQ
6 speed > non-stalled auto
#46
I dont get this whole mystique that the new 5.0s have been getting? i must say I have heard/seen so many things about them from being overhyped to the real deal. Losing to stock f-bodys to beating cam'd ones? Are they difficult to drive or something? I must say it got me really interested to run one. When i was bone stock at the track on hot humid day with almost 3000ft DA I was running high 11.8-12.1 @ 119-121. there was a new 5.0 auto running low 13's at 107-108(this is what my buddy who is a huge mustang fan said). I lined up once with it and destroyed it. when i was stock i came across 3 on the street one had intake,exhaust,tune( saw him later at at a meet) and 2 stock ones. Each one backed down when i tired to run em. I whould still like to run one.
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I dont get this whole mystique that the new 5.0s have been getting? i must say I have heard/seen so many things about them from being overhyped to the real deal. Losing to stock f-bodys to beating cam'd ones? Are they difficult to drive or something? I must say it got me really interested to run one. When i was bone stock at the track on hot humid day with almost 3000ft DA I was running high 11.8-12.1 @ 119-121. there was a new 5.0 auto running low 13's at 107-108(this is what my buddy who is a huge mustang fan said). I lined up once with it and destroyed it. when i was stock i came across 3 on the street one had intake,exhaust,tune( saw him later at at a meet) and 2 stock ones. Each one backed down when i tired to run em. I whould still like to run one.
its easy to sit on a high horse with a 70k car and say,"that car is hype". well your Z is an easy kill for thousands of street car with less money in them. theer are other folks out there with more boost, more cubic inches, and less weight than you EVO. how does an evo do against a big boost V8 with slicks at the track? how many people in this forum run 7's in the 1/4? compare a 70k car like your cool.
my favorite past time before i pulled the turbo motor out was hunting your mighty Z's.
EASY KILL. A JOKE.
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its easy to sit on a high horse with a 70k car and say,"that car is hype". well your Z is an easy kill for thousands of street car with less money in them. theer are other folks out there with more boost, more cubic inches, and less weight than you EVO. how does an evo do against a big boost V8 with slicks at the track? how many people in this forum run 7's in the 1/4? compare a 70k car like your cool.
my favorite past time before i pulled the turbo motor out was hunting your mighty Z's.
EASY KILL. A JOKE.
my favorite past time before i pulled the turbo motor out was hunting your mighty Z's.
EASY KILL. A JOKE.
#49
its easy to sit on a high horse with a 70k car and say,"that car is hype". well your Z is an easy kill for thousands of street car with less money in them. theer are other folks out there with more boost, more cubic inches, and less weight than you EVO. how does an evo do against a big boost V8 with slicks at the track? how many people in this forum run 7's in the 1/4? compare a 70k car like your cool.
my favorite past time before i pulled the turbo motor out was hunting your mighty Z's.
EASY KILL. A JOKE.
my favorite past time before i pulled the turbo motor out was hunting your mighty Z's.
EASY KILL. A JOKE.
Do I really care if gave you a hard on because you turbo mustang can beat as you put it " my Mighty Z"? No, but i do find it a bit disturbing! Also what does my evo lining up with big boost v8s on slicks at the track have to do with anything? now you seem really desperate to find any way to try and insult me!Put that thing on a road course again an evo or a z06 and then have someting to brag about! If I didnt know any better I would swear your are the epitome of civic driving ricer!
#50
Oh yeah well my buddies dads outlaw car that runs 6's will beat your turbo mustang!......See what im getting at?
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#52
Can i get a hot tub! I like how he was response to defend the new 5.0 was that his turbo mustang can beat my z06 but does does not mention one thing about the new 5.0 in his sign doing the same!
Oh yeah well my buddies dads outlaw car that runs 6's will beat your turbo mustang!......See what im getting at?
Oh yeah well my buddies dads outlaw car that runs 6's will beat your turbo mustang!......See what im getting at?
and your Z is a low 11 second car in good conditions with a good driver.
it's the "im on a silverplated house on top of the hill and my Z kills lesser cars" attitude. of course your 7 liter, factory cnc headed, Z will kill a 5 liter car. but not much else in its category. the Z07 is updated, but still falling behind and is becoming more irrelavent as a few years pass.
i make the same responses to anyone with that attitude no matter what they drive.
#53
Can i get a hot tub! I like how he was response to defend the new 5.0 was that his turbo mustang can beat my z06 but does does not mention one thing about the new 5.0 in his sign doing the same!
Oh yeah well my buddies dads outlaw car that runs 6's will beat your turbo mustang!......See what im getting at?
Oh yeah well my buddies dads outlaw car that runs 6's will beat your turbo mustang!......See what im getting at?
#54
That race went exactly how I knew it would because the Z28 driver left it in D instead of choosing the gear. The Z28 may not have won but It would have been ALOT closer. And any LS1 owner that spends time at the 1/4 in the real world will know that a well driven stock M6 LS1 can run with a 5.0 but the 5.0 should pull about half a car. Do a few simple mods to the LS1 and you close the gap quick. It all comes down to the driver.
#55
Nice vids... However saying a stock 5.0> full bolt on ls1 is ignorant. The auto on the camaro took quite a while to downshift and get up into its powerband have it hold 2nd gear or put a stall in it and it would have been MUCH closer.
Also I'm pretty sure everyone here knows what happens when an equally powerful m6 ls1 races a stock stallled auto ls1... The auto gets raped, an m6 camaro against the 5.0 would have been one hell of a race and I say a slight edge to the ls1.
If you wanted to make the race a little more fair atleast make the 5.0 in that video an auto lol that way the downshift times would be similar.
By watching that video and saying stock 5.0> a4 or m6 bolt on ls1 is the joke of the year... the m6 would level the shifting capabilities of the m6 5.0 and a simple stall change would help level the A6 tranny in the 5.0 to the a4 in the camaro
Also I'm pretty sure everyone here knows what happens when an equally powerful m6 ls1 races a stock stallled auto ls1... The auto gets raped, an m6 camaro against the 5.0 would have been one hell of a race and I say a slight edge to the ls1.
If you wanted to make the race a little more fair atleast make the 5.0 in that video an auto lol that way the downshift times would be similar.
By watching that video and saying stock 5.0> a4 or m6 bolt on ls1 is the joke of the year... the m6 would level the shifting capabilities of the m6 5.0 and a simple stall change would help level the A6 tranny in the 5.0 to the a4 in the camaro
#56
So selecting the "Right" gear in the auto would have made up about 4-6 cars (and pulling) the 5.0 had? They should do the same race with the Ls1 selecting the "right" gear. That way if the outcome stays the same, no excuses. Or if it does change, we can all see the difference of selecting the right gear versus the "d" mode.
#57
So selecting the "Right" gear in the auto would have made up about 4-6 cars (and pulling) the 5.0 had? They should do the same race with the Ls1 selecting the "right" gear. That way if the outcome stays the same, no excuses. Or if it does change, we can all see the difference of selecting the right gear versus the "d" mode.
#58
I use to hang out some buddies of mine years ago, who all drove Ls1's. All were very few bolt ons, but were all running at least a 100shot. But even the Intake/Exhaust (off the juice of course) SS m6 guys, couldnt beat the Stock WS6 m6 that was there friends car. Go figure lol
#59
im not defending the 5.0. it is what it is. a mid-high 12 second car in good conditions with a good driver.
and your Z is a low 11 second car in good conditions with a good driver.
it's the "im on a silverplated house on top of the hill and my Z kills lesser cars" attitude. of course your 7 liter, factory cnc headed, Z will kill a 5 liter car. but not much else in its category. the Z07 is updated, but still falling behind and is becoming more irrelavent as a few years pass.
i make the same responses to anyone with that attitude no matter what they drive.
and your Z is a low 11 second car in good conditions with a good driver.
it's the "im on a silverplated house on top of the hill and my Z kills lesser cars" attitude. of course your 7 liter, factory cnc headed, Z will kill a 5 liter car. but not much else in its category. the Z07 is updated, but still falling behind and is becoming more irrelavent as a few years pass.
i make the same responses to anyone with that attitude no matter what they drive.
What about the boss mustang? that thing is barely faster that the regular 5.0 and comes with cnc heads etc. Yeah the z06 is starting to fall behind, thats what happens at the end of a model run. when it first came out it was destroying everything.
Last edited by redctsv; 10-01-2011 at 04:54 PM.
#60
I know some EVo's and Mustangs that would rape both your Z and yoru EVo. So what. Your Z should be faster the a stock mustang. BUt Guess that sucks for the ones I beat at the track when I was stock and so was they. When they ran mid 12's and I ran low 12's. Both us stock.