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Old 10-11-2011, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by F8L BYT
Nice kill, Im not sure how hard he was in it though. I give the advantage to the z06 all day long from a roll like that but it seems like you rolled out on him pretty easy from your story which im not sure about. The z should win in a straight line race imo but dont catch him on a road with some turns
The Boss had his foot in it as I did not see him jump, I heard him.. it was loud. Are you saying that a 3600 pound Boss is better in the twisties than a 3200 pound Z06? The Z06 spent a lot of time being developed at Nurburgring, and as I recall ran a 7.56 there in 2002. Like I said, the Boss may have just had the plastic pulled off the seats.
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Originally Posted by Z28Z06
The Boss had his foot in it as I did not see him jump, I heard him.. it was loud. Are you saying that a 3600 pound Boss is better in the twisties than a 3200 pound Z06? The Z06 spent a lot of time being developed at Nurburgring, and as I recall ran a 7.56 there in 2002. Like I said, the Boss may have just had the plastic pulled off the seats.
Not sure then Nurburgring but it did beat it at the Leguna Seca track. And this was a C6Z not a C5Z. It took the 100K C6Z with the Z07 pacjage to beat it. Which was better then the ZR1 also.

1. Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR 1:33.92 138 '08 600 / 1536 Chris Winkler
2. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Z07 Package 1:34.43 137 '11 512 / 1394 MotorTrend
3. Devon GTX 1:35.08 136 0 659 / 0 DMW
4. Porsche 911 GT2 RS 1:35.56 136 '10 620 / 1370 Johannes van Overbee
5. Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 1:35.80 135 '08 647 / 1530 Motortrend
6. Ferrari 458 Italia 1:36.22 135 '09 570 / 1485 Randy Pobst
7. Nissan GT-R (Mk II) 1:36.35 135 '11 530 / 1736 MotorTrend
8. Lexus LF-A 1:36.39 135 '10 560 / 1609 MotorTrend
9. Audi R8 GT 1:36.39 135 '10 560 / 1520 MotorTrend
10. Porsche 911 GT3 RS 1:36.77 134 '10 450 / 1400 MotorTrend
11. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Z07 Package 1:37.40 133 '11 512 / 1394 motortrend
12. Porsche 911 GT3 RS 1:37.77 133 '10 450 / 1400 Johannes van Overbee
13. Porsche 911 Turbo 1:37.80 133 '09 500 / 1570 C&D
14. Mercedes SLS AMG 1:38.82 131 '10 571 / 1620 MotorTrend
15. Ford Mustang Boss 302 LS 1:39.50 130 '12 446 / 1573 Road&Track
16. Porsche 911 GT3 1:39.52 130 '06 415 / 1395 Motortrend
17. Porsche 911 Turbo 1:39.89 130 '06 480 / 1585 Timed by Edmunds.com
18. Porsche 911 Turbo S 1:40.11 130 '10 530 / 1585 road&track
19. Audi R8 V10 5.2 FSI 1:40.20 129 '09 525 / 1620 road&track
20. Ford Mustang Boss 302 1:40.21 129 '11 450 / 1650 Motor Trend
21. Nissan GT-R 1:40.45 129 '08 479 / 1740 Motor Trend
22. Mercedes SLS AMG 1:40.74 129 '10 571 / 1620 Bern Schneider
23. Audi R8 4.2 FSI quattro 1:40.75 129 '06 420 / 1560 Motor Trend
24. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 1:40.90 129 '05 513 / 1437 Motor Trend
25. Porsche Cayman R 1:41.64 128 '10 330 / 1320 MotorTrend
55. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 1:53.73 w 114 '02 411 / 1414 Steve Millen(this would be your C5Z)
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No one has tested the Boss at the ring yet.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Not sure then Nurburgring but it did beat it at the Leguna Seca track. And this was a C6Z not a C5Z. It took the 100K C6Z with the Z07 package to beat it. Which was better then the ZR1 also.


55. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 1:53.73 w 114 '02 411 / 1414 Steve Millen(this would be your C5Z)
I drive better than Millen though.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Did you watch the video? At the Ring it was. The is also a Ford GT that did it in 7:40. Just a click faster. Then the C6 Z06 Z07 package that did it a little faster also. But the Regular Z06 lost to it. This car was designed for this and that was it. Its computers are was above the Z06. It has more power and weighs a little more. But again with better suspension.
Like has been said in another thread specifically about the ZL1, there are too many variables that go into 'Ring times for them to be definitive. So I take them with a grain of salt. I don't believe Ranger Armstrong is gonna run mid 10s @ 135mph in a ZL1, which would mean it handles significantly better than a Z06. Not sure I'm ready to believe that yet. I'll wait til production versions are driven at other tracks. Like that list you just posted.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Like has been said in another thread specifically about the ZL1, there are too many variables that go into 'Ring times for them to be definitive. So I take them with a grain of salt. I don't believe Ranger Armstrong is gonna run mid 10s @ 135mph in a ZL1, which would mean it handles significantly better than a Z06. Not sure I'm ready to believe that yet. I'll wait til production versions are driven at other tracks. Like that list you just posted.
At the drag strip it will have advantage over a Z06 as well with its launch control. Also with an auto not having to worry about banging gears.
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You completely missed my point.
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nice kill
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Not sure then Nurburgring but it did beat it at the Leguna Seca track. And this was a C6Z not a C5Z. It took the 100K C6Z with the Z07 pacjage to beat it. Which was better then the ZR1 also.

1. Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR 1:33.92 138 '08 600 / 1536 Chris Winkler
2. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Z07 Package 1:34.43 137 '11 512 / 1394 MotorTrend
3. Devon GTX 1:35.08 136 0 659 / 0 DMW
4. Porsche 911 GT2 RS 1:35.56 136 '10 620 / 1370 Johannes van Overbee
5. Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 1:35.80 135 '08 647 / 1530 Motortrend
6. Ferrari 458 Italia 1:36.22 135 '09 570 / 1485 Randy Pobst
7. Nissan GT-R (Mk II) 1:36.35 135 '11 530 / 1736 MotorTrend
8. Lexus LF-A 1:36.39 135 '10 560 / 1609 MotorTrend
9. Audi R8 GT 1:36.39 135 '10 560 / 1520 MotorTrend
10. Porsche 911 GT3 RS 1:36.77 134 '10 450 / 1400 MotorTrend
11. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Z07 Package 1:37.40 133 '11 512 / 1394 motortrend
12. Porsche 911 GT3 RS 1:37.77 133 '10 450 / 1400 Johannes van Overbee
13. Porsche 911 Turbo 1:37.80 133 '09 500 / 1570 C&D
14. Mercedes SLS AMG 1:38.82 131 '10 571 / 1620 MotorTrend
15. Ford Mustang Boss 302 LS 1:39.50 130 '12 446 / 1573 Road&Track
16. Porsche 911 GT3 1:39.52 130 '06 415 / 1395 Motortrend
17. Porsche 911 Turbo 1:39.89 130 '06 480 / 1585 Timed by Edmunds.com
18. Porsche 911 Turbo S 1:40.11 130 '10 530 / 1585 road&track
19. Audi R8 V10 5.2 FSI 1:40.20 129 '09 525 / 1620 road&track
20. Ford Mustang Boss 302 1:40.21 129 '11 450 / 1650 Motor Trend
21. Nissan GT-R 1:40.45 129 '08 479 / 1740 Motor Trend
22. Mercedes SLS AMG 1:40.74 129 '10 571 / 1620 Bern Schneider
23. Audi R8 4.2 FSI quattro 1:40.75 129 '06 420 / 1560 Motor Trend
24. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 1:40.90 129 '05 513 / 1437 Motor Trend
25. Porsche Cayman R 1:41.64 128 '10 330 / 1320 MotorTrend
55. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 1:53.73 w 114 '02 411 / 1414 Steve Millen(this would be your C5Z)

Dude, you do know the C5z driven by Millen was on a wet track right??? These times are meaningless except for the ones done on the same day in same conditions. Not to mention the C6z and maybe some others were tested on run flats. So I wouldn't look too much into this list. A 2006 Z06 with similar tires to Boss 302 on the same day ain't gett'in beat
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Originally Posted by jbs02somws6
Dude, you do know the C5z driven by Millen was on a wet track right??? These times are meaningless except for the ones done on the same day in same conditions. Not to mention the C6z and maybe some others were tested on run flats. So I wouldn't look too much into this list. A 2006 Z06 with similar tires to Boss 302 on the same day ain't gett'in beat
You should call Chevy and chastise them for that.
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Very believable kill, especially if the Boss ran out of gear (it's gearing is awesome for Laguna Seca).

Originally Posted by ohioborn80
NIce kill.

I think the fastest one I seen yet on stock rubber is 12.2@117. WIth tire swap one went 11.7@12X. Most guys are only running mid 12's though.
A stock Boss 302 trap 12x on tire only? Very doubtful but lots of C5Zs have trapped 116-118mph.

However I believe that is the fastest trap for a stock C5Z.

Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Not sure then Nurburgring but it did beat it at the Leguna Seca track. And this was a C6Z not a C5Z. It took the 100K C6Z with the Z07 pacjage to beat it. Which was better then the ZR1 also.

1. Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR 1:33.92 138 '08 600 / 1536 Chris Winkler
2. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Z07 Package 1:34.43 137 '11 512 / 1394 MotorTrend
3. Devon GTX 1:35.08 136 0 659 / 0 DMW
4. Porsche 911 GT2 RS 1:35.56 136 '10 620 / 1370 Johannes van Overbee
5. Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 1:35.80 135 '08 647 / 1530 Motortrend
6. Ferrari 458 Italia 1:36.22 135 '09 570 / 1485 Randy Pobst
7. Nissan GT-R (Mk II) 1:36.35 135 '11 530 / 1736 MotorTrend
8. Lexus LF-A 1:36.39 135 '10 560 / 1609 MotorTrend
9. Audi R8 GT 1:36.39 135 '10 560 / 1520 MotorTrend
10. Porsche 911 GT3 RS 1:36.77 134 '10 450 / 1400 MotorTrend
11. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Z07 Package 1:37.40 133 '11 512 / 1394 motortrend
12. Porsche 911 GT3 RS 1:37.77 133 '10 450 / 1400 Johannes van Overbee
13. Porsche 911 Turbo 1:37.80 133 '09 500 / 1570 C&D
14. Mercedes SLS AMG 1:38.82 131 '10 571 / 1620 MotorTrend
15. Ford Mustang Boss 302 LS 1:39.50 130 '12 446 / 1573 Road&Track
16. Porsche 911 GT3 1:39.52 130 '06 415 / 1395 Motortrend
17. Porsche 911 Turbo 1:39.89 130 '06 480 / 1585 Timed by Edmunds.com
18. Porsche 911 Turbo S 1:40.11 130 '10 530 / 1585 road&track
19. Audi R8 V10 5.2 FSI 1:40.20 129 '09 525 / 1620 road&track
20. Ford Mustang Boss 302 1:40.21 129 '11 450 / 1650 Motor Trend
21. Nissan GT-R 1:40.45 129 '08 479 / 1740 Motor Trend
22. Mercedes SLS AMG 1:40.74 129 '10 571 / 1620 Bern Schneider
23. Audi R8 4.2 FSI quattro 1:40.75 129 '06 420 / 1560 Motor Trend
24. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 1:40.90 129 '05 513 / 1437 Motor Trend
25. Porsche Cayman R 1:41.64 128 '10 330 / 1320 MotorTrend
55. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 1:53.73 w 114 '02 411 / 1414 Steve Millen(this would be your C5Z)
That was the first-year C6Z with the known suspension and tire (run flats) short comings. The Boss is very impressive though!

That C5Z time is a joke, not worth publishing.

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Dude, you do know the C5z driven by Millen was on a wet track right??? These times are meaningless except for the ones done on the same day in same conditions. Not to mention the C6z and maybe some others were tested on run flats. So I wouldn't look too much into this list. A 2006 Z06 with similar tires to Boss 302 on the same day ain't gett'in beat
Actually that is a fantastic list. Those MT tests are groups of about 10 cars at a session (Top Handling tests, Top Drivers car, etc) driven by top drivers and if I'm not mistaken, usually around the same time of year. Granted there can be variances, but it's a great list.
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Originally Posted by Deuuuce
Very believable kill, especially if the Boss ran out of gear (it's gearing is awesome for Laguna Seca).



A stock Boss 302 trap 12x on tire only? Very doubtful but lots of C5Zs have trapped 116-118mph.

However I believe that is the fastest trap for a stock C5Z.

Agreed, no boss has been 122 without some mods. This is the fastest known pass for a completely stock boss with a tire swap, still impressive to me and right on par with c5z's which is why I think they would be a lot closer with similar drivers in a drag race

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLmXeUflf4I
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I passed you in Winchester on the way home, actually took route 81 north to route 7. My buddy said to stop at a place called Longshots in Charles Town for steamed shrimp, ever been there?
I've been to longshot billiards a couple of times. Never had there shrimp, just a few beers and some great crab dip. Are you in the area much?
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Originally Posted by F8L BYT
Agreed, no boss has been 122 without some mods. This is the fastest known pass for a completely stock boss with a tire swap, still impressive to me and right on par with c5z's which is why I think they would be a lot closer with similar drivers in a drag race

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLmXeUflf4I
Its looks like its ball's freezing weather in this vid. And a back wind
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When exactly would it have been "***** freezing?" The car just came out a few months ago.
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Dude have you looked at the date this video was up loaded????????? This video was uploaded march 28th. Why are people dressed up with hoodies ?? i just googled the track for events back in mid to late march and the temps didnt go past 50 this last march

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Doesn't sound "freezing" to me, it sounds like good weather to go to the track. Is that against the rules now?
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Originally Posted by Deuuuce
Very believable kill, especially if the Boss ran out of gear (it's gearing is awesome for Laguna Seca).



A stock Boss 302 trap 12x on tire only? Very doubtful but lots of C5Zs have trapped 116-118mph.

However I believe that is the fastest trap for a stock C5Z.



That was the first-year C6Z with the known suspension and tire (run flats) short comings. The Boss is very impressive though!

That C5Z time is a joke, not worth publishing.



Actually that is a fantastic list. Those MT tests are groups of about 10 cars at a session (Top Handling tests, Top Drivers car, etc) driven by top drivers and if I'm not mistaken, usually around the same time of year. Granted there can be variances, but it's a great list.
The fastest i have seen a new boss trap in person was 112. and it was a cold night.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Doesn't sound "freezing" to me, it sounds like good weather to go to the track. Is that against the rules now?
No but my point is that in that pass the conditions are near perfect. You have a back wind and a cold day.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Doesn't sound "freezing" to me, it sounds like good weather to go to the track. Is that against the rules now?
Usually you guys are always whining about your da's when someone else runs good. I've seen a stock 02-04 Z06 run the times that Boss did. Although the Z0 had more mph.
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