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Old 10-21-2011, 06:23 PM
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The guy on the bike can't ride for ****.
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Naaa 600s are just slow. I raped one the other day on my lawn mower but figured it wasnt even worth posting
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Quality rider in that vid...

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Viper got walked but didn't look like more than a car when the video ended to me, although the GTR easily stopped the pull and cranked back.
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Originally Posted by bjamick
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Do they ever go to mobile to run?
Old 10-22-2011, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ABQ99TA
The guy on the bike can't ride for ****.

I've seen much worse lately, but yes, he did short shift the first gear he was in by at least a couple thousand RPMs, appeared to shift quite poorly, and could have tucked much closer to the tank to possibly run even with the GT-R. That's a 2007/2008 ZX-6R which is the slowest and least powerful 600 made in the last 5+ years. A slip-on exhaust without a tune does little to affect power and they are likely only trapping high 120s (while the GT-R supposedly traps 131) at low 11s even with a good rider. It's true almost all fuel injected 600s in the last 10 years can hit 10s including this one, but this is probably the least likely to. They are light, flickable bikes on the track (I've done California Superbike School levels 1+2 on them) but they are truly gutless and even feel slow when winding them out to 13k. Put that GT-R against a new ZX-6R (or any other 600) and it could be a whole other story.
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Originally Posted by DenniSTi
I've seen much worse lately, but yes, he did short shift the first gear he was in by at least a couple thousand RPMs, appeared to shift quite poorly, and could have tucked much closer to the tank to possibly run even with the GT-R. That's a 2007/2008 ZX-6R which is the slowest and least powerful 600 made in the last 5+ years. A slip-on exhaust without a tune does little to affect power and they are likely only trapping high 120s (while the GT-R supposedly traps 131) at low 11s even with a good rider. It's true almost all fuel injected 600s in the last 10 years can hit 10s including this one, but this is probably the least likely to. They are light, flickable bikes on the track (I've done California Superbike School levels 1+2 on them) but they are truly gutless and even feel slow when winding them out to 13k. Put that GT-R against a new ZX-6R (or any other 600) and it could be a whole other story.
ahhh, finally got another knowledgeable rider in here. Welcome!

Anyone who says that GTR "raped" the viper is a idiot. It beat it, sure enough, but if a loss by a car length is a "raping" then what would you call what I do to most cars I run? "**** Fisting"?
Old 10-23-2011, 08:24 AM
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Lol....
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Didnt see any brake boosting from the G35. Tisk Tisk
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Originally Posted by Ju1ce
No, what I call a jump is the Viper rolling ahead just prior to the start of the race, and then hitting the gas first.



What I call a rape is what happened shortly after the jump.

Originally Posted by 38394Z28
hahahahaha I lol'd

really though, that GTR raped the **** outta that Viper. I really like that most people with GT-R are down to race

Nice vids OP
You too

There was no raping at all. Dont be idiots.... the STOCK viper hung with the modded GTR quite well... He did lose, but no rape

Originally Posted by PewterScreaminMach
Quality rider in that vid...

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Viper got walked but didn't look like more than a car when the video ended to me, although the GTR easily stopped the pull and cranked back.


Originally Posted by DenniSTi
I've seen much worse lately, but yes, he did short shift the first gear he was in by at least a couple thousand RPMs, appeared to shift quite poorly, and could have tucked much closer to the tank to possibly run even with the GT-R. That's a 2007/2008 ZX-6R which is the slowest and least powerful 600 made in the last 5+ years. A slip-on exhaust without a tune does little to affect power and they are likely only trapping high 120s (while the GT-R supposedly traps 131) at low 11s even with a good rider. It's true almost all fuel injected 600s in the last 10 years can hit 10s including this one, but this is probably the least likely to. They are light, flickable bikes on the track (I've done California Superbike School levels 1+2 on them) but they are truly gutless and even feel slow when winding them out to 13k. Put that GT-R against a new ZX-6R (or any other 600) and it could be a whole other story.
Not completly true. I owned an 08 zx6r passion red, and once you did the jumper mod(stupid emissions) it ran just like any other 600 of its time(save the cbr600, that bitch was a beast in 07-08)


Now I have an 09 ZX6R....(600 sportsbike of the year)

laugh when people say 600s are slow....
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Geez... GTR's don't play. lol
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That was close! Those Gen IV vipers are no joke obviously.
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Nice vids, thanks . All fast and nice, but the most impressive to me was the viper. I mean damn that's some seriousness, right off the srf.
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Originally Posted by 5.4ever
Not completly true. I owned an 08 zx6r passion red, and once you did the jumper mod(stupid emissions) it ran just like any other 600 of its time(save the cbr600, that bitch was a beast in 07-08)
My friends 08 went from 99 rwhp to 105 with just the jumper mod. Those bikes are heavy for a 600, but the engine makes good power. With the jumper mod done, it made the same power to the wheel as another friends 07 R6 when both had full systems and tunes.
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ive seen stock 08 vipers trap 131. so the viper guy doesnt really know how to drive or that gtr is making more power then what is posted
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Originally Posted by SalvageZ28
ive seen stock 08 vipers trap 131. so the viper guy doesnt really know how to drive or that gtr is making more power then what is posted
The GT-R is making the power posted. The shop that built the car posted all of the dyno sheets on NAGTROC. Also just because a handful of stock Gen IV Vipers trap 131mph doesn't mean they all do. They average about 129mph.
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Originally Posted by TheHitman
The GT-R is making the power posted. The shop that built the car posted all of the dyno sheets on NAGTROC. Also just because a handful of stock Gen IV Vipers trap 131mph doesn't mean they all do. They average about 129mph.
If they average 129 I guarantee you more than a "handful" have trapped 130-131 in stock trim. Saw two different cars do it on the same night back in '09. It's not that far fetched for a 3400# car making 550rwhp to do that.

I think some are butt hurt that a STOCK Viper can run that close to a 2012 GTR with a 100whp over stock.
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I think as well the viper did well and didnt get pulled on bad like some have stated. Most people dont understand within just those few seconds how fast they are going and at the speeds they reached viper wasnt that far behind but either way lost which is the end result and thats what counts. Bad*ss GTR though too bad i dont have enough power some in my area that i see that look bad ***.
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Originally Posted by coupeDave
I think some are butt hurt that a STOCK Viper can run that close to a 2012 GTR with a 100whp over stock.
With that extra power the GTR has it made them about the same. The GTR only has 530hp stock and less to the wheels then the viper stock. Not to mention it weighs least 500lbs more.

Stock for stock atthe drag strip the GTR wins on ET all day. Cause of its AWD. What are 2012 GTR's trapping stock? Isn't it mid-high 120's?
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Originally Posted by coupeDave
If they average 129 I guarantee you more than a "handful" have trapped 130-131 in stock trim. Saw two different cars do it on the same night back in '09. It's not that far fetched for a 3400# car making 550rwhp to do that.

I think some are butt hurt that a STOCK Viper can run that close to a 2012 GTR with a 100whp over stock.
Butt hurt? LOL The GT-R in the vid makes 550whp and weighs 4000lbs. What's crazy is that 4000lb tank is pulling on the Viper that makes the same power and weighs less.

Also 2012 GT-Rs make 480whp stock so 555whp is not 100whp over stock genius.




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