Heater

I was using his quote and adding to it for Hio...but looks like we both fail

LT/LS Guy

Yeah whatever...

midevil1

iTrader: (17)

The 400M has won 3 out of the last 4 Engine Builders Challenge's. BES and Jon Kaase have used it to win. Kaase did it twice with the 400M.

Mike Morris

iTrader: (55)

Yes sir.



E cam,radials blah blah full interior,stock wheels,all sway bars on etc with X GT40s ported





Add drag radials and ported cast iron GT40 heads to that combo and this is what I got



I ran high 13s with gears,free mods,1.72 rockers with springs,full exhaust with shorty headers,355s,65MM TB,stock cam,pulleys,77MM prom,GT40 intake-check out the date of the slip I could barely drive period



I went mid 14s stock-with window sticker in the car and temp tags on it in MD in the fall.



True but if you got a Cobra and took out the silencer and advanced the timing it was a good race till 110 or so. An 89 turbo T/a would smash both

Wrong. 350 TPI car would run neck and neck with one and a turbo T/a would smash one up

My 89 Formula bone stock at Capital raceway



SLP prom,pulleys,TPIS fast pac,Vette runners(no dings),SLP cold air,MSD box with Accel coil,160 stat,ported AFM and bingo

R6cowboy

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It seemed kind of slow to me, especially having 3.73s and DRs. Like I mentioned before in post #25, my '89 notch ran 14.1 @100mph with E-cam, bolt-ons, 2.73 gears and street tires. DRs and 3.73 would've dropped my e.t. significantly. Back then I also ran a friend's '90 LX hatchback with only shorty headers, catless H-pipe, Flowmaster catback, BBK cold air and 3.55 gears to a 14.1 @99mph also on street tires.

midevil1

iTrader: (17)

351C uses the SB bellhousing pattern and the M series uses the BB bell housting. They shared the canted valve heads in the 2 barrel version only. Blocks are different. 351c uses a 9.213 deck height and the 351M used the 10.27. Modified series was considered a BB. 351C uses a 5.7 rod and the Modified uses a 6.33 rod. Bore spacing were both 4.38 and stroke were both 3.5. 400M uses a 4.00 stroke.

Unless you have built a motor and raced it. You don't have the right to talk **** about it. I have built and raced a REAL BOSS 351 D1ZE-A motor and it wasn't a piece of ****. Went 9's in a 81 hatch and drove it to work 3 days week..

midevil1

iTrader: (17)

When you can't drive...you can't drive.

96ssindeed

Oh well, lol

Stopsign32v

iTrader: (1)

I like valve cover studs instead of bolts. If I had to choose tho I would rather have an elbow over a standard manifold. But then who knows. Also header studs. Hmmm

snake95

Header studs? **** that! Installing longtubes were a pain enough on my car, I think I'd rather press lit cigarettes to my eyeballs.

LOL@HiO saying no it's a turd! Then wait but but but you're talking about an engine from 35 years ago! You never disappoint, buddy.

Stopsign32v

iTrader: (1)

I bought new wheels tehehe

92cobranotch

iTrader: (9)

I dont see where they are overly impresive in stock form either. They are impressive when stroked and bored to big cubic inch. But on 351 ci they dont spin the world backward. And they look similar to a big block but a true clevland has sbf bell housing. 351m 400 uses same patern as the bbf 460

LT/LS Guy

Yeah they don't run that quick out here. Stock they're good for low 15's-high 14's. E-cam, full b/o's/gears/dragradial is usually good for solid high 13's @ ~100.

LT/LS Guy

I never got a chance to run a 93 Cobra in any of my LT1's. I use to tear up the GT's & LX's though. I raced full bolt-on, geared cars when all I had was homemade CAI, plugged silencer, 160* stat, basically free mods with 3" cut-out. They didn't stand a chance.

MauriSSio

the stock cam for the 5.0 was a pretty good piece for being stock. with boltons and no weight reduction most 5.0's are typically high 13's low 14's at maybe 100mph. cam cars are too much faster without changing the heads.

glennster

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What ifs are always there and there sure in hell were not many 350 cars running around and I remember a local turbo T/A that stayed on the lot till the next MY because nobody would touch the price on the car. They dropped it big to sell it. Don't forget the 10 minute tune up and 14.0 was easy.

HioSSilver

iTrader: (8)

^^^this. When you get done boring/strokin and replacing all the oe stuff anything will run. Somewhat heavy also.....almost like a mid-block. I like useing oe stuff for the engine.

Nice record keeping Mike!

R6cowboy

iTrader: (3)

Thanks. I was wondering if the gents location typically results in much slower times then here in IL. But then again it could be the driver as well. My friend who owned the '90 LX hatchback I mentioned a few posts back couldn't run it any faster then 15.0. I jumped in his car that same day at the track and my two runs resulted 14.3 and 14.1.

88blackgt

You both should do some research before you talk. They aren't common engines compared to Ws so you don't see them ever day. Just because you havent seen it in your own closed minded little world doesnt mean they aren't out there.

92cobranotch

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so tell me wich 351c in stock form is impressive? maybe you mean in comparison to what was built in thier era. The heads work really well on a motor with larger bore to unshroud them.