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Old 01-05-2012 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 92cobranotch
so tell me wich 351c in stock form is impressive? maybe you mean in comparison to what was built in thier era. The heads work really well on a motor with larger bore to unshroud them.
Again you have done zero research on canted valves. They do better than inline setups in smaller bores because the valves open to the center of the chamber.

Do your own research. I already did your research for you on putting a T56 behind a 5.0.
Old 01-05-2012 | 09:30 AM
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Again you have done zero research on canted valves. They do better than inline setups in smaller bores because the valves open to the center of the chamber.

Do your own research. I already did your research for you on putting a T56 behind a 5.0.
yea and you didnt get the t56 swap and rear gear then and still dont. i understnad it doing beter than inline. similar to what a tfs twisted wedge does. but like i said i dont see where they are impressive in STOCK form.
Old 01-05-2012 | 09:41 AM
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Wow, this thread got derailed
Old 01-05-2012 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 92cobranotch
yea and you didnt get the t56 swap and rear gear then and still dont. i understnad it doing beter than inline. similar to what a tfs twisted wedge does. but like i said i dont see where they are impressive in STOCK form.
You better call everyone thats already done it and tell them you know more w/ your non running car.

If you dont see whats impressive you havent looked. 8s back in the 70s w/ stock casting iron heads? Don't talk about "replacing everything w/ aftermarket" because the aftermarket was NOT what it is today(and really still isnt there for the C bottom ends).

Heres a quick google for you. http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=294982

Maybe you guys could teach Bob and Billy about what's junk and whats not?
Old 01-05-2012 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 88blackgt
You better call everyone thats already done it and tell them you know more w/ your non running car.

If you dont see whats impressive you havent looked. 8s back in the 70s w/ stock casting iron heads? Don't talk about "replacing everything w/ aftermarket" because the aftermarket was NOT what it is today(and really still isnt there for the C bottom ends).

Heres a quick google for you. http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=294982

Maybe you guys could teach Bob and Billy about what's junk and whats not?
WAS the botom end stock on that 8second car? i said in stock 351c form! And my car funs fine idiot
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it talks all about stroked **** in that thread. im not wasting my time. I SAID STOCK FORM
Old 01-05-2012 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 92cobranotch
WAS the botom end stock on that 8second car? i said in stock 351c form! And my car funs fine idiot
Does it drive?

There are some examples in the thread have at it sparky. Here's another hint for you; Ford used Cleveland heads on the 351 Cobra Jets and Boss 302
Old 01-05-2012 | 10:18 AM
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I UNDERSTAND COBRA JET ****. out of the box the old **** ran in 12s at best. And cobrajets are not equal to average production clevland. Yes it drives i took it up the street last weekend. i work so much its hard to get time to work on it.
Old 01-05-2012 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 92cobranotch
yea and you didnt get the t56 swap and rear gear then and still dont. i understnad it doing beter than inline. similar to what a tfs twisted wedge does. but like i said i dont see where they are impressive in STOCK form.
stock 351c 2v heads flow 230cfm, the boss 4v head flow 275cfm. A stock LS1 head flows what?240cfm? i would say the old cleveland stuff is impressive especially for the time they came out. Of course its not gonna be impressive forever, shoot v6's today are approaching LS1 power levels
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Originally Posted by MauriSSio
stock 351c 2v heads flow 230cfm, the boss 4v head flow 275cfm. A stock LS1 head flows what?240cfm? i would say the old cleveland stuff is impressive especially for the time they came out. Of course its not gonna be impressive forever, shoot v6's today are approaching LS1 power levels
I agree the heads flow great. and yes for there time period. but i asked 88gt if he meant their era. bore and stroke is were a head that flows that good can really be used

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Originally Posted by 92cobranotch
I agree the heads flow great. and yes for there time period. but i asked 88gt if he meant their era. bore and stroke is were a head that flows that good can really be used
Ws and Cs have the same bore and stroke

4 x 3.5
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Originally Posted by 88blackgt
Ws and Cs have the same bore and stroke

4 x 3.5
i know. the heads work great with 4.125x4
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427ci sbf with yates heads are impressive. production 351c 4v not so much
Old 01-05-2012 | 11:20 AM
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I thought we already talked about canted valves and bore size? Do some reasearch before you talk out your ***.
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Originally Posted by 88blackgt
I thought we already talked about canted valves and bore size? Do some reasearch before you talk out your ***.
Your the one who talks out your ***. Saying a 456 or lower gear was suitable for a dd. To make the t56 come out right for the new 5.0 power band.
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Originally Posted by 88blackgt
I thought we already talked about canted valves and bore size? Do some reasearch before you talk out your ***.
so your saying a 4.125 bore is going to slow a canted valve head down?

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Nothing new about canted valve stuff...bbc had it before ford and there was actually a super rare sbc casting. Low and mid lift velocity sucked on the ford hence why most look for the 2v head.
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http://www.offroaders.com/tech/Ford-...V8-Engines.htm ............boss 351 made a whoppin 330 hp in 71, the cobra jet made 266. wow, sorry im not on the floor impressed. http://www.carmemories.com/cgi-bin/v...erience_id=132

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i gotta agree with LT/LS GUY...my LT1 always smoked mustangs including the vaunted '93 cobra...and still does, as well as my '87 formula 350....in '91 GM changed the look on there f-body's and went with speed density intake in place of the mass air sensor...the night i bought my '91 formula 350 new i already had changed the entire air system...those cars '91-'92 were way ahead of what ford was offering back then....i never lost to 5.0 and i was a saleman at ford , so i was there driving them as well...and i still have a place in my heart for them and will someday buy one that's in great shape...
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^^^^^ i agree formula 350 cars ran strong. Friend of mine had a t5 swaped one


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