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Old 01-25-2012, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
Just sayin'. Both cars make similar power, GXP is a good 100 lbs heavier; the LT1 is RWD. It's a no brainer really.
Like I said...I've never lost to one. Street, track, dig, roll, vette, TA, Camaro..whatever. If anybody in the local area cares to settle this, I'm with it. Win or lose, I'm not trippin'.
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
Wrong. A well driven 96/97 Camaro SS would smoke a LS4 car stock for stock. I'd put my money on a stock one vs. a full bolt-on LS4. I don't even think a base LT1 Z28 would have a problem pulling one. What do the LS4 cars run stock? Mid 14's at less than 100?
I'm not sure what the record is for each, but I believe stock LT1's and LS4's run similar times on average. I would put my money on a well driven 6 speed LT1 from a roll though.
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Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ
I'm not sure what the record is for each, but I believe stock LT1's and LS4's run similar times on average. I would put my money on a well driven 6 speed LT1 from a roll though.
Of all the LT1s I've raced, I don't think I've run an M6. It would probably have the advantage. Although it would depend on where we start. LS4s have ridiculously long 2nd gear...up to 102 in 2nd.
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They have the same 2.92 gears as the older GTP's?
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Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ
They have the same 2.92 gears as the older GTP's?
2.93 for the GXP & 3.29 for the newer GTP Comp G.
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Originally Posted by gixper
"Fast"... but "stockish" v. "stockish" an LS4 car is faster than an LT1, 2v Stang GT, and (unless I've just not raced the right driver) a 3v Stang GT.
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...tang-gt-page-1
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 5.1 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 13.0 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 25.6 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 5.6 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.8 sec @ 103 mph

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...rix-gxp-page-1
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 5.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 14.8 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 30.9 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 6.0 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 14.3 sec @ 98 mph

I know, in the "real world", you MURDER those all day long.
We all know FWD is easier to launch than RWD.
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Not sure about all other LT1's but my brother has owned two of the ram-air versions. '97 6spd and '96 A4. The 97 car would go 13.7x at 104 all day stock to the tires, the auto 13.9@102. I think only about 4,000 or so were built so not you're average LT1.

Even then I have witnessed base LT1 F-bodies knock off 14-flats at ~100 in stock trim.
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Originally Posted by ALGX
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...tang-gt-page-1
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 5.1 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 13.0 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 25.6 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 5.6 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.8 sec @ 103 mph

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...rix-gxp-page-1
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 5.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 14.8 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 30.9 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 6.0 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 14.3 sec @ 98 mph

I know, in the "real world", you MURDER those all day long.
We all know FWD is easier to launch than RWD.
While I can appreciate your sarcasm, I know the numbers, but from my first hand experience, I've never lost to one. Furthermore, I've never seen a STOCK Mustang GT break out of the 14s
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
Not sure about all other LT1's but my brother has owned two of the ram-air versions. '97 6spd and '96 A4. The 97 car would go 13.7x at 104 all day stock to the tires, the auto 13.9@102. I think only about 4,000 or so were built so not you're average LT1.

Even then I have witnessed base LT1 F-bodies knock off 14-flats at ~100 in stock trim.
Yeah, I've read about those. Never actually seen one though. Not very many were built.
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Originally Posted by ALGX
[url]We all know FWD is easier to launch than RWD.
This is sarcasm right?

I had a 94 LT1 A4 bone stock. Went 13.9@98 all day here in Wisconsin...
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
Not sure about all other LT1's but my brother has owned two of the ram-air versions. '97 6spd and '96 A4. The 97 car would go 13.7x at 104 all day stock to the tires, the auto 13.9@102. I think only about 4,000 or so were built so not you're average LT1.

Even then I have witnessed base LT1 F-bodies knock off 14-flats at ~100 in stock trim.
I know a lot of people claim that the SS/WS6 LT1's didn't really make any more power than the regular LT1's, but every time I see numbers from them, they are faster. I've never seen one run in person though.

As for regular LT1's, I've had a few (all A4's) and they have all run 14.1-14.3 @ 96-98 mph stock. Stock M6 cars always edged me out from a roll, so 100 mph is probably about the norm for them.
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Ls4 barf
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
Ls4 barf
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lt1 car worth $5,000. ls4 car worth $15,000
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Originally Posted by AronZ28
A stock as a rock RSX Type S is a mid 14 second car if you drive it like you hate it, ie 6000-7000rpm clutch dump and powershifting like a boss. A turbocharged one is not something to be sneezed at IMO, as it should run mid 12's to an 11 second et if its set up right.
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While I can appreciate your sarcasm, I know the numbers, but from my first hand experience, I've never lost to one. Furthermore, I've never seen a STOCK Mustang GT break out of the 14s
Are you at some really high elevation or something?
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Originally Posted by peebzies
lt1 car worth $5,000. ls4 car worth $15,000
^^^This^^^ I can run with mustangs, & LT1s in a wrong wheel drive, 4 door, with heated leather seats, heads up display, dual climate control, etc...

Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Are you at some really high elevation or something?
No...486 ft But the track I go to isn't the best...actually it's horrible. Little River Drag Way in Temple, TX (about 2hrs south of you).
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Originally Posted by 38394Z28
This is sarcasm right?
Yes it was . . .

Just curious, if GTs can't get out of 14s, what are you running?
Not trying to start anything, just out of curiosity.

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Originally Posted by ALGX
Yes it was . . .

Just curious, if GTs can't get out of 14s, what are you running?
Not trying to start anything, just out of curiosity.
14s...

My fastest time so far....a blistering 14.1 (Speed Demon! Watch out now)

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I see.
Got a pic of your Skylark?
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Here it is. Some jack wagon T-boned me last weekend. The yellow is my inspiration!
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