Got Killed by a Twin Turbo 350z
03-26-2004, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by camarossdn
That guy must of spent some money on that car because I don't think the new 350z come turbo charged. Unless you are talking about the old 300z twin turbo?
03-27-2004, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by roger
anything with a turbo is worth fearing.not saying you will lose but you just never know.
You never can tell though. That's the thing. A POS rx7 can pop of a low 11.
03-27-2004, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by deznuttzz28
there are some imports out there that get my respect man!!! my buddy from work has a plymouth laser with stock turbo and 20lbs of boost and also dump pipes. man those things can move. i can't wait to see him get a bigger turbo for his laser it's gonna be sick. sorry for the loss but we can't win them all... 
03-27-2004, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by unit213
10's. I've seen so many fully built 5.0 stangs run mid 12's it's not even funny.
You never can tell though. That's the thing. A POS rx7 can pop of a low 11.
You never can tell though. That's the thing. A POS rx7 can pop of a low 11.
I resent the POS statement *****, but can vouch for the comment.
03-27-2004, 12:27 PM
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correct me if i'm wrong, as i've never had a turbo/blown engine... but "boost", as measured in psi, is just a measurement of the air pressure at the intake manifold. It isn't even really a measurement of CFM, as you can flow more CFMs with lower "boost" on the same engine with a ported manifold. that being said, if his was reporting 4-5psi of boost, that was net boost pressure, from both turbos, as measaured at his manifold. meaning each one was putting out about 2-3psi. I've never heard of someone essentially doubling their rwhp output on a stock engine from 4psi. hell i've never even heard it happen from 14psi (although in THEORY it should happen around 14.7psi, in practice i believe it's closer to 18 or 19psi due to effeciency loss). has your friend in the 350z swapped cams? ported heads, manifold, and throttle body? is there a shot of nitrous on there he didn't mention? i am not calling bullshit either, i am just very confused, as his car seems to be defying the laws of turbo car physics that every other car i've ever seen or heard of has adhered to.
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correct me if i'm wrong, as i've never had a turbo/blown engine... but "boost", as measured in psi, is just a measurement of the air pressure at the intake manifold. It isn't even really a measurement of CFM, as you can flow more CFMs with lower "boost" on the same engine with a ported manifold. that being said, if his was reporting 4-5psi of boost, that was net boost pressure, from both turbos, as measaured at his manifold. meaning each one was putting out about 2-3psi. I've never heard of someone essentially doubling their rwhp output on a stock engine from 4psi. hell i've never even heard it happen from 14psi (although in THEORY it should happen around 14.7psi, in practice i believe it's closer to 18 or 19psi due to effeciency loss). has your friend in the 350z swapped cams? ported heads, manifold, and throttle body? is there a shot of nitrous on there he didn't mention? i am not calling bullshit either, i am just very confused, as his car seems to be defying the laws of turbo car physics that every other car i've ever seen or heard of has adhered to.
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03-27-2004, 03:53 PM
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Yes it is a 350Z with the Greddy TT kit on it. The car is pretty damn fast. I was right behind them for every race. The Talon pulled the 350Z also but not until 155. I wish I had had a bottle on my car so I could have run that 350Z. I will have to bring a bottle with me sometime so we can line them up and see how fast that thing really is. On 9lbs he would probably get me for sure but who knows.
03-27-2004, 06:23 PM
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That kit costs a pretty penny, $6495 to be exact. The 18g is rated at 590 cfm at 14.5 psi, so roughly 1180 for both at 14.5.
A little OT, DSMs were built in Normal Ill, so I still consider them domestic...just not the tradional ideal (and I'm being a little ****
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Good deaths either way man. Just think you're almost as fast but with at a lower cost.
*edit-ricer cop-out j/k
A little OT, DSMs were built in Normal Ill, so I still consider them domestic...just not the tradional ideal (and I'm being a little ****
)Good deaths either way man. Just think you're almost as fast but with at a lower cost.
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03-27-2004, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by abbo7
How in the world can a 350Z put down 370 rwhp w/ just 4 lbs of boost? I am not calling bs, but thats just insane.
Would you like to see the dyno sheet? It made 372 rwhp with a hair under 5 psi
The air to fuel was at 9:1 across the board...with some tuning...I would have to say about 400-415 rwhp at the same boost level
03-27-2004, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by roger
anything with a turbo is worth fearing.not saying you will lose but you just never know.
Stock second gen eclipse (t-25
)Almost anything with a turbo is worth fearing
03-27-2004, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by King02SS
My guess would be he meant 4lbs per turbo since he said it was a twin turbo setup. 2lbs per turbo be very low output to be putting down numbers like that. Especially in a car that only has 280 fly wheel horse to begin with. Nice deaths though man.
The base kit from greedy comes preset to 4.5 psi with out a boost controller
03-27-2004, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Drew98TA
After a proper tune and on 9lbs they are expecting atleast 400rwhp. Its just plain sick.... 
We are expecting over 500 to the wheels with 10 psi..not 400
Greddy's car is putting down 509 with the same setup and same boost level through the converters...This 350 is making about 20 more rwhp over greddys car at the same boost level due to the fact we have 93 in texas and they only have 91 and they are running converters
03-27-2004, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by stoleit
ya but how much did you spend on your car? and how much did he spend on the 350? i guarantee if you took the amount he spent on the turbo kit and put that on your car you'd walk him. but nice deaths! honorable
Doesnt matter who spent what on what car...Its called RUN WHAT YA BRUNG
03-27-2004, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by camarossdn
That guy must of spent some money on that car because I don't think the new 350z come turbo charged. Unless you are talking about the old 300z twin turbo?
The complete kit cost right at 6k..and this was a 350Z
03-27-2004, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Skarecrow
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correct me if i'm wrong, as i've never had a turbo/blown engine... but "boost", as measured in psi, is just a measurement of the air pressure at the intake manifold. It isn't even really a measurement of CFM, as you can flow more CFMs with lower "boost" on the same engine with a ported manifold. that being said, if his was reporting 4-5psi of boost, that was net boost pressure, from both turbos, as measaured at his manifold. meaning each one was putting out about 2-3psi. I've never heard of someone essentially doubling their rwhp output on a stock engine from 4psi. hell i've never even heard it happen from 14psi (although in THEORY it should happen around 14.7psi, in practice i believe it's closer to 18 or 19psi due to effeciency loss). has your friend in the 350z swapped cams? ported heads, manifold, and throttle body? is there a shot of nitrous on there he didn't mention? i am not calling bullshit either, i am just very confused, as his car seems to be defying the laws of turbo car physics that every other car i've ever seen or heard of has adhered to.
[benchracing off]
correct me if i'm wrong, as i've never had a turbo/blown engine... but "boost", as measured in psi, is just a measurement of the air pressure at the intake manifold. It isn't even really a measurement of CFM, as you can flow more CFMs with lower "boost" on the same engine with a ported manifold. that being said, if his was reporting 4-5psi of boost, that was net boost pressure, from both turbos, as measaured at his manifold. meaning each one was putting out about 2-3psi. I've never heard of someone essentially doubling their rwhp output on a stock engine from 4psi. hell i've never even heard it happen from 14psi (although in THEORY it should happen around 14.7psi, in practice i believe it's closer to 18 or 19psi due to effeciency loss). has your friend in the 350z swapped cams? ported heads, manifold, and throttle body? is there a shot of nitrous on there he didn't mention? i am not calling bullshit either, i am just very confused, as his car seems to be defying the laws of turbo car physics that every other car i've ever seen or heard of has adhered to.
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THE CAR IS 100% STOCK other than the kit...The vehicles compression ratio has alot to do with how much hp it makes per lb of boost..There is a guy with an IROC here in town that picked up over 250 to the wheels with his vortech and about 7 psi with 11:1 compression.The kit was a pain in the *** to install and Ill be damned if Im gonna do internal work to it
03-27-2004, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 97CamaroZ
Yes it is a 350Z with the Greddy TT kit on it. The car is pretty damn fast. I was right behind them for every race. The Talon pulled the 350Z also but not until 155. I wish I had had a bottle on my car so I could have run that 350Z. I will have to bring a bottle with me sometime so we can line them up and see how fast that thing really is. On 9lbs he would probably get me for sure but who knows.
You trap 116 on the bottle.....I trapped 115 on 6 psi....consider yourself OWNED with 10 psi
But its all in fun Jay..plus you know I have the good driver mod!
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hey guys i own this 350z you all are talking about and im indeed running 6psi total so each turbo is putting 3psi . the car did dyno 372 running pig rich! jus so you know im an ls1 guy myself i recently sold my ls1. i did not expect the 350z to move the way its moving but hey im not complaining. hugger ss did the whole install on the car. im going to be tunning the car for at least 9psi . at 8.5 psi these cars are putting down 450rwhp 430 rwtq. and i have not spent the kind of money you are thinking ive put in about 7k thats it.
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