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Old 05-01-2012, 09:14 PM
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Headers are good for about 30 rwhp over the factory manifolds AND cats. The cats are the biggest restriction. I have dynoed cars before and after a cai, and with all test variables the same, temps and conditions, there is little gain with a cai. Now what wont show on a dyno is the intakes ability to keep the air cool. But the factory box insulates very well too. I don't know why people say the stock intake is a bottleneck, it is 4" in diameter, the biggest downfall of it is the inlet into the box and the box volume imo....
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nice death..? i can't see a cammed ls2 being that slow, but we all know anything can happen on the street. your car def runs strong for the mods, no doubt. but we all know a properly cammed/tuned ls2 m6 gto, even with a poor driver, would flat walk off from a car trapping <112.
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Originally Posted by lablackbeast
Idk what to think no more, ppl say it helps top end but hurts lowend and some say it helps lowend and hurts top end but don't really know what to think no more .... Can someone explain
I was ******* with you.
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Originally Posted by BM6GTO
If you thought GTO's were slow, than your car is "slow not that fast too." Stock for stock they are stupidly similar if we want to compare numbers. Your car also weighs more
They are slow bro lol ..... And stock for stock the camaro will win and mod for mod the camaro will also win
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GTO should take you by a bus.
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
A bolton/cam 6spd LS2 GTO is a high 11/low 12 @ 113-116mph car all day long. And that's NOT counting the fast guys that go 10's and manage 120mph traps, just the normal variety setups. Your car should have gotten walked. Hell, I beat a tune/catback/CAI L99 SS repeatedly from a roll and dig when I was just basic boltons (LT's, vavaram, catback, tune). What does a tune only L99 make? 330-340rwhp? Versus 400-440rwhp for a 300lb+ lighter GTO? Just aint making sense.

Regardless, you ran him basically door to door and no matter what mods you have that's doing good.
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GTO should pull IMO, but then again I haven't seen too many l99's running around here (that actually race). The GTOs I have ran, or who I need to run when I am back up and running are all 115+ cars, so maybe he needs more driver mod then power mods for sure.

What DA did you do that 12.5 at 110 at? Thats a really good time and mph for such little mods.
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Originally Posted by lablackbeast
They are slow bro lol ..... And stock for stock the camaro will win and mod for mod the camaro will also win
Dude your a complete idiot, im not going to waste my time with you. Stock for Stock its a drivers race and anyone on this forum will second that. Get your **** straight before you come posting like you know everything. Like i said, if a GTO is slow, SO if your even heavier block of metal.
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Originally Posted by BM6GTO
Dude your a complete idiot, im not going to waste my time with you. Stock for Stock its a drivers race and anyone on this forum will second that. Get your **** straight before you come posting like you know everything. Like i said, if a GTO is slow, SO if your even heavier block of metal.
Have to agree with GTO.

They are by no means slow stock. And with a cam it should eat you alive. Literally pull you a bus or more.

Stop being a 5th gen fanboy. IMO our cars are one of the worst performance platforms because of the weight. Just look at how hard it is to get into the ******* 9s with these boxes.
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Originally Posted by BM6GTO
Dude your a complete idiot, im not going to waste my time with you. Stock for Stock its a drivers race and anyone on this forum will second that. Get your **** straight before you come posting like you know everything. Like i said, if a GTO is slow, SO if your even heavier block of metal.
LOL, I didn't even see that gem of a comment. You are spot on, they are a drivers race, but I will give the edge all day to to a well driven, lighter, GTO over a l99 5th gen.
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Originally Posted by AznMuscle
GTO should pull IMO, but then again I haven't seen too many l99's running around here (that actually race). The GTOs I have ran, or who I need to run when I am back up and running are all 115+ cars, so maybe he needs more driver mod then power mods for sure.

What DA did you do that 12.5 at 110 at? Thats a really good time and mph for such little mods.
Its because hes a lying troll, knows nothing about cars and thinks his camaro is hot ****.


Originally Posted by AznMuscle
LOL, I didn't even see that gem of a comment. You are spot on, they are a drivers race, but I will give the edge all day to to a well driven, lighter, GTO over a l99 5th gen.
Amen
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Originally Posted by lablackbeast
They are slow bro lol ..... And stock for stock the camaro will win and mod for mod the camaro will also win
Maybe you should let 2SSARME come out and race you and show you how SLOW your car really is.
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**** if he is in Arizona I know of a bunch of cam GTOs that would break that **** in.
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Originally Posted by lablackbeast
They are slow bro lol ..... And stock for stock the camaro will win and mod for mod the camaro will also win


200lbs lighter, shorter tire, and 26 hp less. They pretty are evenly matched. That is reflected in their 1/4 mile times. Both cars run low-13's to high 12's stock.
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Originally Posted by AznMuscle
**** if he is in Arizona I know of a bunch of cam GTOs that would break that **** in.
Hell yea, you should get this set up. Im in for the
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I'm amazed he doesn't realize that the GTO and the camaro are nearly identical setups.

Also an L99 stock will get eaten up by an LS2 GTO. An LS3 is a drivers race edge being to the GTO for lighter weight and better gearing.

Also a bolt on GTO will run like mid 12s I think or even low 12s. A Bolt on one once pushed my **** in so deep. Best run I ever had with my stock L99 was like 13.1@104. That GTO was trapping like 112 with just bolt ons. With cam I bet they trap near 120. A tuned L99 will trap what 107-108?

Never thought I'd have to go **** on a 5th gen owner here but bro, if that GTO didn't beat you, it's not because your car is fast. An L99 is slow. At 630rwhp I'm still suffering from being slow, even with full torque at 2k rpm. 4,000lbs is still 4,000lbs at the end of the day.
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I don't think the tune in the GTO has settled in yet.
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I think someone forgot to mention the tune settling on the Camaro. LOL
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i can't wait till my tune settles in LOL


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