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Old 05-03-2012, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by R6cowboy
Stock trapping 125-129, in perfect conditions I guess...??
Nah that's pretty real world.

PSM trapped 127 on a stock 2007 GSXR-600 in normal air, nothing spectacular, and he's nowhere near magazine rider weight.

I trapped 122 on a ZZR600 with only a jetting change (maybe 3hp) and i'm not especially light either. Had good air, but being only a few mph off that trap speed with about 12hp-14hp less than a GSXR, R6, ZX6R, etc shows that 126+ is pretty easy to achieve for real world rider weight/conditions.
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Originally Posted by R6cowboy
Stock trapping 125-129, in perfect conditions I guess...??
As Beans said, I trapped 127 at LVD (and almost 104 in the 1/8), which is a less than stellar track. In fact, I trapped 126 multiple times at LVD in a +2000 DA, and that was while I was still learning (hell, I'm still learning and improving as I've only been to the strip 3 times on a bike - I just learn quickly ).

"Perfect conditions" down at a better track like the ones in NJ would yield more impressive results. I don't doubt I could hit 130 on a cold day at Atco, but until I do, I guess we'll never know. I plan on going down end of this year when the weather's cold just to find out.

And this was on my bone stock 2007 GSXR 600. I weigh about 180-185 in full gear. My bike is the same "model year" as the 2006 from the OP's video, only I'm stock (06 and 07 GSXR 600's were the same bike).
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Originally Posted by FirebirdTransAm
03 Z06: 233/239 cam & 100 shot

06 GSXR 600: slip on, sprocket, tune

Eclipse: 61, E85, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_c6Z...layer_embedded
god that Z is sexy...I need one with boost in a bad way
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Originally Posted by evangto87
lol nice. Thats exactly my point though. O potential 130mph car should pull an r6 pretty hard on the roll. Even at first then start leaving up top. Weirdness i tell ya...
driver's race, just like you saw in the video. especially considering how inconsistent nitrous can be. one and one it looked like in the video? sounds about right

Originally Posted by R6cowboy
Not that it really matters but the bike in this thread is a GSXR 600. And a Vette that traps 127mph isn't going to pull "hard" on a well ridden '06 GSXR 600.
I concur, especially if the 600 has some work done. it's no 1000, but it's still very fast, just needs a better rider to get more out of it

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It's really not that simple though. The bike gains a lot less MPH on the back half than a car that traps the same, so you can't compare traps between bikes and cars like you can between cars. A well ridden stock 600 will pull a car that traps 130 pretty hard from a first gear roll. From 55+ where the bike is in second gear it's a very close race and the car will eventually pull up top. A stock 600 will trap 125-129 depending on the model, rider, DA, etc. From a 40 roll it doesn't look anything like the trap speeds indicate. From a 60 roll it'll be very close.

It takes a 135mph car to beat a 600 with a rider on it from 40mph, unless passing the bike at 140+ when it's out of steam counts as a win.
40 is a funny spot cause most fast street cars would be shifting into second about there, but if you start off in second at 40 you're gonna be soft...I'd love to do something like a 25 or 30 roll in the cobra with anything on the road once it's back together. I'll use the boost controller to keep the boost down in 1st, raise it up in 2nd, and full blast in third. should be pretty epic on the street haha
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Thought it was relevant that the bike rider made these posts on another forum in his thread with the video:

I started in 2nd gear. Probably should've started in 1st but I'm not experienced with pulling the front wheel up at all lol.
This was the first time I've ever raced on a bike so I definitely have a long ways to go and yes my shifting is lazy as hell right now.
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Originally Posted by PewterScreaminMach
Thought it was relevant that the bike rider made these posts on another forum in his thread with the video:
This is the reality in most cases. Car guys believe a rider to be experienced based on ownership and perceived abilities, but bike riders mostly don't know what they are doing. Hence, bolt on F-bodies beating 600s. I will tell you, I raced a CBR600F4 back when I first got my car in 99 so the bike was probably brand new too. We would race from 50 and I would try to get the jump on him. He would always end up pulling away without a problem as soon as that thing was spun up, and those are quite a bit slower than a new 600.
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Bikes are extremely rider dependent.

First time ever down the strip on the ZX6 in sig, when it was stock, was only an 11.3 @ 122mph but I had no track experience on a bike. Magazines were getting 10.7s so I was pretty bummed by being half a second slower on the same bike and in great air. Three years and a few bolt-ons later by the end of the day trapped 131, stock height/wheelbase with the front strapped. Super shitty 1.9 60'. -1/+2 sprockets, X-TRE, tuned PCIII, BMC race filter, secondaries pulled, no cat, GP pipe, etc. Weigh ~165lbs, DA was ~150...blessed by two ~sea level tracks within an hour and a half of me...

Terribly difficult to launch a stock wheelbase bike at the track, I have been riding over 10 years and it was still a PITA to find the line between yanking the front or bogging. 600s make **** torque so the launch is especially difficult.

New ones are a lot faster, doing close to my modded times stock.
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Originally Posted by Beans
Nah that's pretty real world.

PSM trapped 127 on a stock 2007 GSXR-600 in normal air, nothing spectacular, and he's nowhere near magazine rider weight.

I trapped 122 on a ZZR600 with only a jetting change (maybe 3hp) and i'm not especially light either. Had good air, but being only a few mph off that trap speed with about 12hp-14hp less than a GSXR, R6, ZX6R, etc shows that 126+ is pretty easy to achieve for real world rider weight/conditions.
Originally Posted by PewterScreaminMach
As Beans said, I trapped 127 at LVD (and almost 104 in the 1/8), which is a less than stellar track. In fact, I trapped 126 multiple times at LVD in a +2000 DA, and that was while I was still learning (hell, I'm still learning and improving as I've only been to the strip 3 times on a bike - I just learn quickly ).

"Perfect conditions" down at a better track like the ones in NJ would yield more impressive results. I don't doubt I could hit 130 on a cold day at Atco, but until I do, I guess we'll never know. I plan on going down end of this year when the weather's cold just to find out.

And this was on my bone stock 2007 GSXR 600. I weigh about 180-185 in full gear. My bike is the same "model year" as the 2006 from the OP's video, only I'm stock (06 and 07 GSXR 600's were the same bike).
Right on. At the time I didn't take into consideration you gents are out east which usually results in better track times then here in northern IL. It's believable for a 600cc to normally get a few more 1/4 mile mph out on the east coast then in my neck-of-the-woods.



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