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Old 05-09-2012 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 2SSARME
We really have no reference points with our setups for trapping. When I was at 430-440rwhp cam I was trapping 118.

He was trapping 125-126 a year ago before some upgrades. We think he would probably trap 135ish. I'm thinking my car as is traps about 127-128 and maybe 130-131 on DRs.
A friend of mine has a 5th gen with a maggie on it and some other mods. His car made somewhere north off 600rwhp and he traps 130-131mph in the 1/4. If he traps 135+mph you won't have a chance in a roll race.. The only chance you may have is to leave harder than him from a dig. This way he has to try and run you down before the 1/4..

BTW your car will not pick up mph at the track going from a street tire to a drag radial. A radial tire is a radial tire. If you spin you will actually run a little more mph than if you hook. Now if you run slicks you might run a little more mph because the slick will grow.
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Originally Posted by odarabla
A friend of mine has a 5th gen with a maggie on it and some other mods. His car made somewhere north off 600rwhp and he traps 130-131mph in the 1/4. If he traps 135+mph you won't have a chance in a roll race.. The only chance you may have is to leave harder than him from a dig. This way he has to try and run you down before the 1/4..

BTW your car will not pick up mph at the track going from a street tire to a drag radial. A radial tire is a radial tire. If you spin you will actually run a little more mph than if you hook. Now if you run slicks you might run a little more mph because the slick will grow.
The only chance I got with him roll racing is leaving in my power band. 600rwtq hooked is going to shoot out. I always shoot out on him about half a car or a car and he has to catch up. When I don't have to let go because of spinning his catchup isn't very successful. Both of us WOT we were side by side, when he hit forth he started edging away but slightly -bumper or so.

The reason I usually get beat is because in second I actually let off throttle 100% because the spinning is so bad and shift around 5k to then WOT again in 3rd which then spins yet again and I have to let off. Picture only using 50% of your cars power until 3rd. I am constantly playing catchup and catchup with higher HP cars/same HP cars usually means I'm going to lose.

I try to not dig run with my current setup because it's actually dangerous. The other day I did a dig run with an m3, gave him about a 3 second head start and went and actually spun so hard the car turned 90 degrees to the right and I had to brake before hitting a wall. Here in my country you will pick up SIGNIFICANTLY with slicks. Because of spinning we actually have to let off to avoid crashing then get back on it. With slicks we don't let off and straight power through. I remember my buddy picked up like 6-7mph with just slicks down here because he wasn't having to let off through 2nd and 3rd. Down here slicks make a significant difference.

***Sorry I meant to say SLICKS before, not drag radials.****

I have a DR setup for the street coming and I am ordering 17" slicks for grudge races.
Old 05-09-2012 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 2SSARME
You're underestimating torque at low RPMs. I have 600rwtq at 3k rpm. He doesn't full boost until 5kish~.

The two vids I posted were of my car very de-tuned. Tuning makes a huge difference. You should know this. I'd expect idiocy from the fasted L99 owner but not a cobra owner.

All I know is what info you spoon feed us on here, and in case you haven't noticed a lot of info posted on message boards is bullshit.
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Originally Posted by Heater
All I know is what info you spoon feed us on here, and in case you haven't noticed a lot of info posted on message boards is bullshit.
Don't worry I'm not bullshitting you.
That foxbody is one of my buddies. All runs are fun runs to judge how my car is doing. Now that I'm getting to his level he has to upgrade. Not many people down here have ever held him to a bumper. Hell I don't think a single car has, as of yet, besides mine.
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From what i know.

Street Tires=Spinning more MPH
DR's=Traction Slightly less MPH
Slicks=More Traction even less MPH

This is the case MOST of the time...
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Originally Posted by GotHemi?
From what i know.

Street Tires=Spinning more MPH
DR's=Traction Slightly less MPH
Slicks=More Traction even less MPH

This is the case MOST of the time...
Re read what I said.

Spinning is such an issue here for high HP cars that we have to let go all together for such a time that it actually affects our % of power being put out. Imagine having to let off power all through 2nd and half way through 3rd so you don't go straight off the track. Or having to shift at 3k rpm until 3rd.
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Originally Posted by 2SSARME
Re read what I said.

Spinning is such an issue here for high HP cars that we have to let go all together for such a time that it actually affects our % of power being put out. Imagine having to let off power all through 2nd and half way through 3rd so you don't go straight off the track. Or having to shift at 3k rpm until 3rd.
I fully understand what you said. Thats why I said MOST of the time. Not ALL the time.
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Originally Posted by 2SSARME
The only chance I got with him roll racing is leaving in my power band. 600rwtq hooked is going to shoot out. I always shoot out on him about half a car or a car and he has to catch up. When I don't have to let go because of spinning his catchup isn't very successful. Both of us WOT we were side by side, when he hit forth he started edging away but slightly -bumper or so.

The reason I usually get beat is because in second I actually let off throttle 100% because the spinning is so bad and shift around 5k to then WOT again in 3rd which then spins yet again and I have to let off. Picture only using 50% of your cars power until 3rd. I am constantly playing catchup and catchup with higher HP cars/same HP cars usually means I'm going to lose.

I try to not dig run with my current setup because it's actually dangerous. The other day I did a dig run with an m3, gave him about a 3 second head start and went and actually spun so hard the car turned 90 degrees to the right and I had to brake before hitting a wall. Here in my country you will pick up SIGNIFICANTLY with slicks. Because of spinning we actually have to let off to avoid crashing then get back on it. With slicks we don't let off and straight power through. I remember my buddy picked up like 6-7mph with just slicks down here because he wasn't having to let off through 2nd and 3rd. Down here slicks make a significant difference.

***Sorry I meant to say SLICKS before, not drag radials.****

I have a DR setup for the street coming and I am ordering 17" slicks for grudge races.
Maybe you should try some Pimp Juice
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Originally Posted by why87
Maybe you should try some Pimp Juice
Meh. Gas here is so bad I need meth. Meth + boost + giggle juice = poof.

BP here is like $1000/55gal. So yeah... for now I gotta play with boost and ****.
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Meh. Gas here is so bad I need meth. Meth + boost + giggle juice = poof.

BP here is like $1000/55gal. So yeah... for now I gotta play with boost and ****.
Im pretty sure he was talking about Pimp Juice - the stuff that makes your tires real sticky, not N2O.

Anyway, whats the engine/trans setup on the Fox? And do you know what it currently weighs and on what tires? You can make those things light as a feather and still have a fairly comfortable car.

Also, whats all done to your car besides the blower? Any changes as far as heads/displacement/cam/exhaust?
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Pimp juice is a traction agent you lay on the street, kinda like VHT. Most of the FAST guys out here (bottom 9's) are using it on their strips of road they race at.
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Oh.

Have truly never heard of it.


3rd world 1 - new technological **** 0
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Originally Posted by jbhotrod
Im pretty sure he was talking about Pimp Juice - the stuff that makes your tires real sticky, not N2O.

Anyway, whats the engine/trans setup on the Fox? And do you know what it currently weighs and on what tires? You can make those things light as a feather and still have a fairly comfortable car.

Also, whats all done to your car besides the blower? Any changes as far as heads/displacement/cam/exhaust?
Foxbody has a 351 stroked 383/393 (not sure which one) with everything pretty much touched. Vortech 8lbs. Was running a little rich and still not use to his new setup. Thing weighs about 3200-3300lbs, but driver is a good 230lbs~. He's on proxes 17" 275 rear, b/c the 315 didn't fit. Has to do some fender adjustments.

I have everything done to my car except displacement and heads. Full exhaust, cam, gearing, meth, internals like lifters and springs to rev higher, 8lbs and a pretty badass tune. I'm also an auto.
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Man. I got a golden facebook thread going on that I'm going to post on here later. It's in Spanish but I'm going to translate. Pretty much I upset every 4cyl in the country and they're now going to come stab me or something. I have every single 180hp car calling me out lol. Ignorant slow people are always fun to **** with. I think I'm going to get into like 15 different races today vs cars that won't even make 200fwhp.
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To be fair, I would race you in either one of my cars.....420 hp TA, or my 110 hp civic, just cuz I like to race Wouldn't want you to waste your gas of course...
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Originally Posted by 2SSARME
Oh.

Have truly never heard of it.


3rd world 1 - new technological **** 0
What? You musta never saw my mexican street racing videos!!
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What? You musta never saw my mexican street racing videos!!

We are very backwards here. Just think about it... a 630rwhp overweight SS being one of the 10 fastest street cars in the whole country. (that actually comes out to play of course). I literally can only count 5 cars right now that I know of that could beat me and 3 of them I think I can beat with tires. People here still believe in 4cyl power. Hold up let me see if I can translate this facebook convo for some entertainment.
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New mod:

+100 hp

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Originally Posted by odarabla
BTW your car will not pick up mph at the track going from a street tire to a drag radial. A radial tire is a radial tire. If you spin you will actually run a little more mph than if you hook. Now if you run slicks you might run a little more mph because the slick will grow.
high hp stick cars gain huge with a good tire, radial or not, as long as it provides traction. for some reason, automagics don't seem to be as affected by tirespin. stick cars are kind of mysterious when it comes to trap speed. i have pulled cars on the street that out-trapped me 3-4 mph. and when i had an a4 car, i would get pulled on the street by "slower" stick cars.
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Originally Posted by 2SSARME

We are very backwards here. Just think about it... a 630rwhp overweight SS being one of the 10 fastest street cars in the whole country. (that actually comes out to play of course). I literally can only count 5 cars right now that I know of that could beat me and 3 of them I think I can beat with tires. People here still believe in 4cyl power. Hold up let me see if I can translate this facebook convo for some entertainment.
In for the transited Facebook convo!!



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