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Old 05-19-2012, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Might want to come tell the guy that had a c/bolt ons running 12.7's last night at the track.
I picked up 31rwhp just from a swap to a fast 92...ls2 intakes are garbage.
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Old 05-19-2012, 06:23 PM
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The LS2 is a good motor, and can run good. The LS2 intake is about the worst intake they could have put on it. There was a dyno on a 6.0 truck done where it shows just how crappy the LS2 intake is: http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthr...ls2+intake+ls1

It's a stout motor like mentioned, and wakes up well with mods IMO and still puts out about 40-45 more to the wheels then the ls1.
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Old 05-19-2012, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Some people just don't know wtf they are doin......you can tell him that for me.
LOL...will do I tell him join here.
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Old 05-19-2012, 07:01 PM
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goat jumped the first run. guess he missed a ear second run. third run was good....kid in the stang even hesitated hafter third honk, and still hammered him. music playing in the goat sucked moose *****.
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Originally Posted by 41863nj
CWARTA...$26,000 for a car with 60,000 miles and is 6 years old...sorry not me...would rather put that money into something newer and with less miles...but if you like it, it's your money...****, those dodge's cost a lot new or used...OP good runs...
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Old 05-19-2012, 07:08 PM
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These car's are close. The 5.0 is superior though, just like the 03/04 Cobra was. That Goat does not sound stock to me. Sounds like a muffler delete, but could be wrong.
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Old 05-20-2012, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Might want to come tell the guy that had a c/bolt ons running 12.7's last night at the track.
How come EVERY GM at your local track runs like crap, but somehow all the '11+ 5.0's run fabulously? That's strange.
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Originally Posted by Demon 383
How come EVERY GM at your local track runs like crap, but somehow all the '11+ 5.0's run fabulously? That's strange.
Nope not every 5.0..a 5.0 with roush blower was runnig best of 13.8's.
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Originally Posted by s346k
i'm not over impressed with the ls2. i think it is because of the intake. having the increased bore, compression, and 243 head should make more power than they do.

actually, it's probably just the car they are in. the ls2 vettes don't seem to be such turds. although, i have seen some ls2 swapped 4th gens that really weren't much faster than an ls1. def not worth the difference in price unless that 4" bore is getting used.
An LS2 GTO with an intake and headers will run even with an LS2 vette. That motor is held back big time from GM. Once you open it up a bit, it runs hard.

Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Might want to come tell the guy that had a c/bolt ons running 12.7's last night at the track.
Yea, 12.7 at probably 122 mph.
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Old 05-20-2012, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by O-FiveCC
The LS2 is a good motor, and can run good. The LS2 intake is about the worst intake they could have put on it. There was a dyno on a 6.0 truck done where it shows just how crappy the LS2 intake is: http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthr...ls2+intake+ls1

It's a stout motor like mentioned, and wakes up well with mods IMO and still puts out about 40-45 more to the wheels then the ls1.
I don't know about that. I made 700whp on a ported LS2 intake and the guy I bought my intake off of made 1100whp with it.
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Old 05-20-2012, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Demon 383
How come EVERY GM at your local track runs like crap, but somehow all the '11+ 5.0's run fabulously? That's strange.
probably should take a hint there, eh?
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Old 05-20-2012, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 1ltcap
probably should take a hint there, eh?
No, tell me, what's the hint?
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Old 05-20-2012, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Demon 383
No, tell me, what's the hint?
that fords do indeed run great, contrary to your belief.
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Good races.

Not sure why people look at the LS2's as a disappointment compared to LS1's. 50 more hp with a few changes seems pretty good to me. I'm assuming all these same people would buy an LS1 GTO over the disappointment that is the LS2

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How come EVERY GM at your local track runs like crap, but somehow all the '11+ 5.0's run fabulously? That's strange.


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An LS2 GTO with an intake and headers will run even with an LS2 vette. That motor is held back big time from GM. Once you open it up a bit, it runs hard.
I can set you guys up with a cold air only LS2 vette...
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Originally Posted by 1ltcap
that fords do indeed run great, contrary to your belief.
You are delusional.
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Originally Posted by NightmareTA
An LS2 GTO with an intake and headers will run even with an LS2 vette. That motor is held back big time from GM. Once you open it up a bit, it runs hard.



Yea, 12.7 at probably 122 mph.
No it only trapped 116-118 all night. He was on a 275 MT DR as well.
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Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ
Not sure why people look at the LS2's as a disappointment compared to LS1's. 50 more hp with a few changes seems pretty good to me. I'm assuming all these same people would buy an LS1 GTO over the disappointment that is the LS2
i am going strictly by personal experience. i have ran a handful of ls2 goats, and 1 ls2 vette. none of which impressed me. apparently the intakes are complete junk, which i had a hunch about anyway. i would not/will not buy a gto, so that argument is null. however, if i was forced to choose, i would obviously opt for the ls2. 4" bore please and thank you.
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Idk about yall but I don't think that GTO sounded stock. Dont ever remember mine sounding like that when I had the stock exhaust.

Then again, it could just be some mufflers that are louder but don't give any extra power.
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Originally Posted by s346k
i am going strictly by personal experience. i have ran a handful of ls2 goats, and 1 ls2 vette. none of which impressed me. apparently the intakes are complete junk, which i had a hunch about anyway. i would not/will not buy a gto, so that argument is null. however, if i was forced to choose, i would obviously opt for the ls2. 4" bore please and thank you.
The fact that you wouldn't buy a GTO does not make the argument null. The point is that the same car with both engines and the LS2 is as much faster than the LS1 as it should be.
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Originally Posted by Demon 383
How come EVERY GM at your local track runs like crap, but somehow all the '11+ 5.0's run fabulously? That's strange.
I've asked him the same thing
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The fact that you wouldn't buy a GTO does not make the argument null. The point is that the same car with both engines and the LS2 is as much faster than the LS1 as it should be.
Valid point
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