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2012 CLS550 vs Charger SRT8

Old 07-02-2012, 12:43 AM
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I once ran into a CLS 350 AMG who was a bit cocky from a stoplight. After having smoked the jesus out of him from a dig... He wouldn't look my way. It said AMG on the back... which is what originally convinced me it might be worth running when I pulled up next to it and he revved it.

Went home, researched it (as I normally do when I don't know wtf car it was) and came to realize that the CLS 350 AMG is some sub 300hp car that was basically badged up and overpriced from the dealer. The package was some sort of "AMG Sport" package that included some carpeting, spoiler, rims, and some other crap. Meh.

Guess its not all in the badging sometimes. I used to get alot of runs in my old V6 CTS... and now in the V, its rare I can get anything to run. I can't even convince my friend with the Evo X to run me from a 60 run. We ran 2 40 runs a few days back with me pulling hard in 2nd, and him missing 3rd. His 3rd gear syncro on his transmission is GONE. Its going to be put under warranty. I'm hoping to have some vids up within 2 weeks.

I've been contemplating a good debadging. LOL

Now before this becomes a Mach vs SRT8 thing... I believe that cars can be fast... with and without badging.

Ok Mach guys, feel free to come in and tell us how you smoked the jesus out of C63 AMGs on rolls and SRT8 Jeeps from a dig.
Old 07-02-2012, 12:59 AM
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Niterider, just a question. When are you going to do headers, or some more complex modifications? Not too familiar with mopar aftermarket..
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Originally Posted by TransAmcoupe98
Niterider, just a question. When are you going to do headers, or some more complex modifications? Not too familiar with mopar aftermarket..
He would do better spending $1500 elsewhere. These engines dont benefit that much from long tubes until you get into at least cammed territory. Even then I would question if the gains are worth the price. I have a mild cam and if i could go back i probably wouldnt have did the headers. The stock shorties are pretty damn good.

Now when talking h/c and big cubes thats when headers are worth their price on these things...
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Old 07-02-2012, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by adamantium
25mpg on the highway and 17 in the city for a 4k+lb auto car is AWESOME.

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/31572.shtml


My car gets 15 in the city and it weighs almost 1000lbs less and its an M6.

Why you're comparing your mustang to a Mercedes is beyond me.
I'm not comparing my Mustang. I'm comparing the current model Camaro and Mustang to the current model Merc. And the reason I was doing so is because this is a racing forum not who has the most luxury. I was just saying that I thought the Merc would have either more power or better economy.
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Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
4.6L twin turbo 402 hp ? Says car runs a 12.8 and it pulled away from you like crazy?
http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehicl...le-performance
thats my bad I was thinking of the CLS63 its a 4.6L twin turbo and guys have been running 12.6's with them stock. But only 402hp out of a twin turbo v8 is low maybe its detuned badly.
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Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
12.0@121 and you walked it? Sorry I call bs http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/up...benz-cls63-amg
the previous CLS63 was a mid to high 12 second car.

this model

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Originally Posted by Mach Boy
I'm not comparing my Mustang. I'm comparing the current model Camaro and Mustang to the current model Merc. And the reason I was doing so is because this is a racing forum not who has the most luxury. I was just saying that I thought the Merc would have either more power or better economy.
Like you said yourself, its a luxury car. Just because they have turbos in it does not mean its a race car. Volvo wagons have a turbo...
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Originally Posted by GotHemi?
He would do better spending $1500 elsewhere
Elsewhere like where? I have a friend interested in a Charger SRT8 6.1
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
Elsewhere like where? I have a friend interested in a Charger SRT8 6.1
A Cam package is $1500 installed here in Cali at a few local hemi shops.
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Originally Posted by NiteRiderWS6
A Cam package is $1500 installed here in Cali at a few local hemi shops.
Nice. My buddy just has a Magnum SXT now but now that he is graduated and has a full time "big boy job" position, he wants to sell the Magnum for a Charger SRT-8 6.1
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I own a 2012 cls550 and a 2012 srt8 grand cherokee and the mercedes is wayyy faster .. Of course tge jeep launches faster due to the awd but after about 40 mph tge mercedes flies by it.. The mercedes twin turbo 4.6 is underrated so bad .. I also smoked a 2007 gt500 on a 60mph roll so a srt8 charger with the 6.1 is nothing to the mercedes even the new 6.4 hemi doesnt match up to it
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Originally Posted by Masorcas
I own a 2012 cls550 and a 2012 srt8 grand cherokee and the mercedes is wayyy faster .. Of course tge jeep launches faster due to the awd but after about 40 mph tge mercedes flies by it.. The mercedes twin turbo 4.6 is underrated so bad .. I also smoked a 2007 gt500 on a 60mph roll so a srt8 charger with the 6.1 is nothing to the mercedes even the new 6.4 hemi doesnt match up to it
1. GJ reviving thread. OP doesn't even have car anymore.2
2. Comparing a srt8 jeep to a bolt on charger = zzzz
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Originally Posted by Masorcas
I own a 2012 cls550 and a 2012 srt8 grand cherokee and the mercedes is wayyy faster .. Of course tge jeep launches faster due to the awd but after about 40 mph tge mercedes flies by it.. The mercedes twin turbo 4.6 is underrated so bad .. I also smoked a 2007 gt500 on a 60mph roll so a srt8 charger with the 6.1 is nothing to the mercedes even the new 6.4 hemi doesnt match up to it
I put a fender on a cocky ************ in an 07ish SL55 AMG car. Point is we all have different experiences with them, and bringing up an old *** thread is useless either way.
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Damn it I want an R8 in the worst way... every time I see it in his signature it's torture.
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LMAO. Me thinks he joined this site just to comment on this old *** thread. Ahahahahaha


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