Tracked350Z

Not really Z06 fast. At least not the later C5's with 405 hp. Might be able to hang with a 385 hp one though. I have seen a couple in the 11.8-.9 range at 118 though with some light bolt ons.

Oh, another thing I forgot to mention. When you have a M3 with bolt ons, it really matters what bolt ons you add. A lot of parts do not expose all the potential of the engines. For instance my cann tune right now is holding me back from making an extra 10 rwhp by switching to a great custom mapped tune. But the price difference is what is keeping me content until I add more bolt ons. With full bolt ons that 10 rwhp difference becomes more like 20-40 rwhp depending on your modifications. I have ran a bolt on M3 and mine with just an intake was able to pull his because of his lack of proper modification. Just be leary of that because the M3's that you run may not be as deadly as some of the others that this other SRT-8 has ran because there is definitely a large difference.

Also if he had a DCT transmission. There's also a .4 second difference in the 60-130 mph times, depending on which shift mode he has selected. If he has selected D2 which is the slowest his 60-130 times are .4 slower and his 1/4 mile trap is 1-2 mph slower as well. With his car in D5 or S6 mode he is shifting .08 milliseconds vs .20 milliseconds. It's funny because I just learned this today. Everything these cars are capable of can easily be deteriated just by the drivers knowledge.

marc97taws6

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I saw a few videos for the VF Engineering VF620 and VF650 and think they are definitely great cars with the DCT. Just not sure I'd want to pay that much when I can buy a 335i Coupe and do a tune and bolt ons and be M3 fast on the cheap.

Apples to oranges, I know

Tracked350Z

Yea, but it's legitimate to at least give it some thought. I know when I bought my M3 I definitely considered a 335i. I could easily be seeing mid to low 12's with the same amount of money. But standard lsd, high revving lovely sounding I6, etc not included. An M car is something special. It's like if you saw a low mileage C5 Z06 for sale and a low mileage C5 FRC for the same price. Which would you buy? I'd have the Z06.

Sticks n Stones

She's a HOT armenian too!


Careful what you wish for:

NiteRiderWS6

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D3VIL

What can we say, we like the finer things in life

V8EATR

You think you can gain 40whp with a tune on an E46 M3? I think thats a little out there.

ZFreie

BAHAHAH Like a boss!

ScreaminRedZ

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Good kills!

I ran a friend's 2011 M3 (manual) and I beat him pretty good, so we figured it was a crappy starting speed. I asked him what his best speed was and he chose 50 mph and for that race we were door to door. He raced one of his friends with the DCT setup and they were door to door. I think it would take some great driving and awesome weather for them to hit the 113-114 mph traps that they are supposedly capable of.

NiteRiderWS6

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That was when you were bolt ons right?

ScreaminRedZ

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Yeah, my current setup, just not spraying.

Tracked350Z

Sounds like it is, but like I said it really depends on the modifications. Specifically, we have what is called Alpha-N tuning which is specific to a CSL intake manifold. In short, the E46 M3 comes standard with individual throttle bodies, plastic plenum, and a restrictive intake. The CSL is a carbon airbox with a much less restrictive intake system along with a MAF delete. The Alpha-N tuning is the only tune to recognize the lack of a MAF sensor. A CSL intake modified M3 will make minimal gains without a proper tune. In many cases it will actually cause the car to lose power with any other off the shelf tune. Thus, many people who upgrade to the Alpha-N tuning have made 40-50 rwhp with the car properly running with actual gains of up to 30 rwhp over a factory manifold. Along with other exhaust modifications and some head work it's very likely to see 370-380 rwhp naturally aspirated. However, with all that being said it comes at a hefty price. The CSL intake is $3000, head porting $3000, valve adjustment another $500, and of course you have to have it all installed and dyno tuned so another $1500. All that for a total of anywhere between $8-$9k dollars in realistic terms.

MACH32V

You're going to have another thread closed with this BS?
**** is getting real old man. Time to break out your joke book and find another line. Don't ya think?

V8EATR

Wow. The last, I don't know, 10 pages of my last 2 threads I didn't really post that much in. Every other retard took the reins there. + it was a joke.