2004 M6 Cobra 100 shot Vs 2002 A4 T/A *GOTVIDSFINALLY* 7/29/12
07-24-2012, 02:26 AM
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BTW, while we're on the topic of trap speeds I've gone a best of 115 a couple of times. Don't know the DA but the last time I did it was at TAD and it's pretty much the worst prepped track of all time, not to mention I have junk 255 Kumho's on. 2.0 60 ft, best ET of 12.5 but that's to be expected on those tires with stock suspension and a grave fear of the 10 bolt.
07-24-2012, 02:38 AM
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Ummm.. You didn't walk me, we were dead even dude! Don't spray next time and we'll see who walks who lol. I'm on pump, you're on race fuel, zero weight reduction in my car so let's set the stories straight now, shall we? What you see in my sig is exactly what I have... .610/.614 cam, exhaust, gears, tune. Stock paper weight 853 heads and LS1 intake.
07-24-2012, 02:45 AM
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Lol just sick of people thinking my car is a slow, big cam piece of **** getting beat by a small cam/stall car, it makes me look bad and it's not the truth!
Saturday night I sure did get beat one race where I started in 1st and spun most of second, that proof is on the GoPro video that still hasn't surfaced yet... But the proof is in the pudding with the video of the second race where you see us neck and neck at 145.
Sure, his T/A beat me a few weeks back, as described in his other thread. BUT I did have a 350 lb passenger and a "tune" doing more harm than good.
That was then, this is now, our cars are pretty much dead nut even, trap just about the same speed, just on different setups. I want to run this sprayed Cobra more than anything right now, the dude just pulls a disappeared act it seems though!! lol
Saturday night I sure did get beat one race where I started in 1st and spun most of second, that proof is on the GoPro video that still hasn't surfaced yet... But the proof is in the pudding with the video of the second race where you see us neck and neck at 145.
Sure, his T/A beat me a few weeks back, as described in his other thread. BUT I did have a 350 lb passenger and a "tune" doing more harm than good.
That was then, this is now, our cars are pretty much dead nut even, trap just about the same speed, just on different setups. I want to run this sprayed Cobra more than anything right now, the dude just pulls a disappeared act it seems though!! lol
07-24-2012, 07:19 AM
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Now if you wanna talk some weight reduction, tuning and some other tid bits I can see one goin 117+ pretty easy.
07-24-2012, 07:58 AM
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Demonicbird00 had one of the most serious 6-speed bolt-on cars I've seen, with his best being 11.81 @ 117. His weight reduction/aero mods were to the point that he would pull his rear spoiler off the car. He also only ran at Atco in cold weather. Once the warm weather hit he would put the weight back in the car and just drive it on the street.
He must be the actual worst driver in the world. My friend, who to this day is one of the worst drivers I've seen, was able to go 117 mph in his 44x rwhp Cobra with a basic setup.
Also, the CTS-V raced two basic pullied Cobras that were in the 440-460 rwhp range and they were great races, with the V just edging them out. How do you think the V would have done against a 340 rwhp fbody?
He must be the actual worst driver in the world. My friend, who to this day is one of the worst drivers I've seen, was able to go 117 mph in his 44x rwhp Cobra with a basic setup.
Also, the CTS-V raced two basic pullied Cobras that were in the 440-460 rwhp range and they were great races, with the V just edging them out. How do you think the V would have done against a 340 rwhp fbody?
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07-24-2012, 08:11 AM
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Kfc... Your ta is a slow big cam pos. Haha! Just kidding. You cab come inspect my car any time. Show me where the bottle is... I am going wet kit, 150 shot. That 145 mph race, was handicapped, and I had a passenger. Sorry u dnt like the facts, but its true. Ill show u what a proper launch looks like next time we are out. Plus! M6 should b able to beat an A4 on a roll, specially if HP is ballpark on both cars
07-24-2012, 08:46 AM
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Demonicbird00 had one of the most serious 6-speed bolt-on cars I've seen, with his best being 11.81 @ 117. His weight reduction/aero mods were to the point that he would pull his rear spoiler off the car. He also only ran at Atco in cold weather. Once the warm weather hit he would put the weight back in the car and just drive it on the street
Now with that said I only make about 60hp more then a ls1. A stock ls1 in my car replacing the ls6 it should go around 120 give or take. And that's not making any changes that would keep it from being a dd'd street car. .....ie no parts missing.
07-24-2012, 08:52 AM
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I can understand what your sayin. But I've I've trapped as high as 130.4 and 129-130+ 10 times, if the trapps were right....some call bs on that. Even if it was bs I have 126+ at 2 different tracks so that is for sure not bs but those were not the exact same as the car was when it trapped 130.
Now with that said I only make about 60hp more then a ls1. A stock ls1 in my car replacing the ls6 it should go around 120 give or take. And that's not making any changes that would keep it from being a dd'd street car. .....ie no parts missing.
Now with that said I only make about 60hp more then a ls1. A stock ls1 in my car replacing the ls6 it should go around 120 give or take. And that's not making any changes that would keep it from being a dd'd street car. .....ie no parts missing.
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07-24-2012, 08:57 AM
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I can understand what your sayin. But I've I've trapped as high as 130.4 and 129-130+ 10 times, if the trapps were right....some call bs on that. Even if it was bs I have 126+ at 2 different tracks so that is for sure not bs but those were not the exact same as the car was when it trapped 130.
Now with that said I only make about 60hp more then a ls1. A stock ls1 in my car replacing the ls6 it should go around 120 give or take. And that's not making any changes that would keep it from being a dd'd street car. .....ie no parts missing.
Now with that said I only make about 60hp more then a ls1. A stock ls1 in my car replacing the ls6 it should go around 120 give or take. And that's not making any changes that would keep it from being a dd'd street car. .....ie no parts missing.
07-24-2012, 09:47 AM
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Demonicbird00 had one of the most serious 6-speed bolt-on cars I've seen, with his best being 11.81 @ 117. His weight reduction/aero mods were to the point that he would pull his rear spoiler off the car. He also only ran at Atco in cold weather. Once the warm weather hit he would put the weight back in the car and just drive it on the street.
He must be the actual worst driver in the world. My friend, who to this day is one of the worst drivers I've seen, was able to go 117 mph in his 44x rwhp Cobra with a basic setup.
Also, the CTS-V raced two basic pullied Cobras that were in the 440-460 rwhp range and they were great races, with the V just edging them out. How do you think the V would have done against a 340 rwhp fbody?
He must be the actual worst driver in the world. My friend, who to this day is one of the worst drivers I've seen, was able to go 117 mph in his 44x rwhp Cobra with a basic setup.
Also, the CTS-V raced two basic pullied Cobras that were in the 440-460 rwhp range and they were great races, with the V just edging them out. How do you think the V would have done against a 340 rwhp fbody?
In my experience, they need 100whp more then a good running (key words) NA car to make it a good race. That was 475whp vs 335whp. Im willing to be if that f body had another 40whp... it wouldnt have been pretty for that cobra. Now even up the drivers, and thats an even race. The fbody driver is better, but the cobra driver isnt that bad. 12.1 at 117 and 11.7 at 120 really isnt that bad of driving.
As far as the V racing the cobras. Did the V have the intake and tune yet? Maybe the cobra owner just found a lucky pulley setup that made good power and didnt over spin the blower. Seems to be a big fault with these cars. Most guys just pulley the living **** out of them and the car rolls more power on the dyno. But at the track when you have to use all your gears or on the roll, your blower is heat soaking crazy from being over spun. Example of that is my friends GT500 (god i know a lot of people lol) had an air intake and tune and made 500whp. His car went 11.6 at 122 on street tire(best street tire driver ive ever seen, but can launch a drag radial car for ****). He pullied up pretty aggressive, made 550whp. Went back to the trap, hasnt broken 12.0 at 118 yet. He lost rev rpm and is heating the blower pretty bad. He now has to grab fourth gear instead of riding out third. And the car has gotten slower on the roll too. Its much snappier and is stronger in a 1 gear pull... but losses steam up top.
If i had to guess... the V racing the SS im talking about, would have probably edged him out to no more then 2 cars. Me and the V were pretty close and i dont suspect beating that SS by much more then a car. Where i would start to pull the SS hard is at speeds over 130mph. The V had me by about a half car every single race where i stopped his pull at around 145 and just sat there till we let out.
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07-24-2012, 09:52 AM
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I actually agree with HIO on this one. That SS trapped 115 with nothing other then kooks headers, cut out, lid, ls6 intake, 4.10s, light flywheel/clutch. No weight reduction. Add a fast, ud pulley, ewp (should be worth 20whp combined) and yank some weight outta the car. It should be able to get damn near close to 120. That SS surprised the **** out of a lot of people on the roll. Even beat a couple stock c5zs. We all thought it was a freak... nope... made 335whp and raceweight was 3600lbs. He just coulda drive it to its absolute peak potential. And his 12.1 passes were done by slipping the clutch since he didnt want to pop the rear end. If he could have launched that car hard, he would have touched 11s.
07-24-2012, 09:58 AM
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That cobra went 12.1 at 117 and and the SS went 12.1 at 113 on the limiter. That cobra now has a ported blower and a solid axle swap. With slicks on the car he best an 11.7 at 120. They were literally side by side from a slow roll with the cobra starting to pull away at speed above 110 or so and it was a very slow pull. Ive also raced my buddies pullied ported cobra in the boss the same way i raced you. Ive seen him trap 120... supposedly hes gone 124 but ive never seen it nor do i believe it. I raced him from 50-115 and i was ahead by a car length. Another friend of mine who owns a speed shop and lives and breathes building mustangs, had a pullied cobra with exhaust and air intake... made 44Xwhp. He went 11.8 at 115 with it. HP for HP the cobras do not perform like an n/a f body.
In my experience, they need 100whp more then a good running (key words) NA car to make it a good race. That was 475whp vs 335whp. Im willing to be if that f body had another 40whp... it wouldnt have been pretty for that cobra. The fbody driver is better, but the cobra driver isnt that bad. 12.1 at 117 and 11.7 at 120 really isnt that bad of driving.
As far as the V racing the cobras. Did the V have the intake and tune yet? Maybe the cobra owner just found a lucky pulley setup that made good power and didnt over spin the blower. Seems to be a big fault with these cars. Most guys just pulley the living **** out of them and the car rolls more power on the dyno. But at the track when you have to use all your gears or on the roll, your blower is heat soaking crazy from being over spun. Example of that is my friends GT500 (god i know a lot of people lol) had an air intake and tune and made 500whp. His car went 11.6 at 122 on street tire(best street tire driver ive ever seen, but can launch a drag radial car for ****). He pullied up pretty aggressive, made 550whp. Went back to the trap, hasnt broken 12.0 at 118 yet. He lost rev rpm and is heating the blower pretty bad. He now has to grab fourth gear instead of riding out third. And the car has gotten slower on the roll too. Its much snappier and is stronger in a 1 gear pull... but losses steam up top.
In my experience, they need 100whp more then a good running (key words) NA car to make it a good race. That was 475whp vs 335whp. Im willing to be if that f body had another 40whp... it wouldnt have been pretty for that cobra. The fbody driver is better, but the cobra driver isnt that bad. 12.1 at 117 and 11.7 at 120 really isnt that bad of driving.
As far as the V racing the cobras. Did the V have the intake and tune yet? Maybe the cobra owner just found a lucky pulley setup that made good power and didnt over spin the blower. Seems to be a big fault with these cars. Most guys just pulley the living **** out of them and the car rolls more power on the dyno. But at the track when you have to use all your gears or on the roll, your blower is heat soaking crazy from being over spun. Example of that is my friends GT500 (god i know a lot of people lol) had an air intake and tune and made 500whp. His car went 11.6 at 122 on street tire(best street tire driver ive ever seen, but can launch a drag radial car for ****). He pullied up pretty aggressive, made 550whp. Went back to the trap, hasnt broken 12.0 at 118 yet. He lost rev rpm and is heating the blower pretty bad. He now has to grab fourth gear instead of riding out third. And the car has gotten slower on the roll too. Its much snappier and is stronger in a 1 gear pull... but losses steam up top.
Either way, agree to disagree
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07-24-2012, 10:05 AM
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That cobra went 12.1 at 117 and and the SS went 12.1 at 113 on the limiter. That cobra now has a ported blower and a solid axle swap. With slicks on the car he best an 11.7 at 120. They were literally side by side from a slow roll with the cobra starting to pull away at speed above 110 or so and it was a very slow pull. Ive also raced my buddies pullied ported cobra in the boss the same way i raced you. Ive seen him trap 120... supposedly hes gone 124 but ive never seen it nor do i believe it. I raced him from 50-115 and i was ahead by a car length. Another friend of mine who owns a speed shop and lives and breathes building mustangs, had a pullied cobra with exhaust and air intake... made 44Xwhp. He went 11.8 at 115 with it. HP for HP the cobras do not perform like an n/a f body.
In my experience, they need 100whp more then a good running (key words) NA car to make it a good race. That was 475whp vs 335whp. Im willing to be if that f body had another 40whp... it wouldnt have been pretty for that cobra. Now even up the drivers, and thats an even race. The fbody driver is better, but the cobra driver isnt that bad. 12.1 at 117 and 11.7 at 120 really isnt that bad of driving.
As far as the V racing the cobras. Did the V have the intake and tune yet? Maybe the cobra owner just found a lucky pulley setup that made good power and didnt over spin the blower. Seems to be a big fault with these cars. Most guys just pulley the living **** out of them and the car rolls more power on the dyno. But at the track when you have to use all your gears or on the roll, your blower is heat soaking crazy from being over spun. Example of that is my friends GT500 (god i know a lot of people lol) had an air intake and tune and made 500whp. His car went 11.6 at 122 on street tire(best street tire driver ive ever seen, but can launch a drag radial car for ****). He pullied up pretty aggressive, made 550whp. Went back to the trap, hasnt broken 12.0 at 118 yet. He lost rev rpm and is heating the blower pretty bad. He now has to grab fourth gear instead of riding out third. And the car has gotten slower on the roll too. Its much snappier and is stronger in a 1 gear pull... but losses steam up top.
In my experience, they need 100whp more then a good running (key words) NA car to make it a good race. That was 475whp vs 335whp. Im willing to be if that f body had another 40whp... it wouldnt have been pretty for that cobra. Now even up the drivers, and thats an even race. The fbody driver is better, but the cobra driver isnt that bad. 12.1 at 117 and 11.7 at 120 really isnt that bad of driving.
As far as the V racing the cobras. Did the V have the intake and tune yet? Maybe the cobra owner just found a lucky pulley setup that made good power and didnt over spin the blower. Seems to be a big fault with these cars. Most guys just pulley the living **** out of them and the car rolls more power on the dyno. But at the track when you have to use all your gears or on the roll, your blower is heat soaking crazy from being over spun. Example of that is my friends GT500 (god i know a lot of people lol) had an air intake and tune and made 500whp. His car went 11.6 at 122 on street tire(best street tire driver ive ever seen, but can launch a drag radial car for ****). He pullied up pretty aggressive, made 550whp. Went back to the trap, hasnt broken 12.0 at 118 yet. He lost rev rpm and is heating the blower pretty bad. He now has to grab fourth gear instead of riding out third. And the car has gotten slower on the roll too. Its much snappier and is stronger in a 1 gear pull... but losses steam up top.
07-24-2012, 10:10 AM
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im not quite sure you read what i posted completely. I said the ss did 113...on the limiter, it went 115 raising the limiter. The cobra did 117 when the raced....115mph vs 117mph.. sorry but thats a drivers race. The cobra NOW has gone 11.7 at 120 with a ported blower and solid axle swap.