Ran into a Mach 1 and a GTO tonight
08-09-2012, 10:08 AM
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In the Mach 1's defense, I think with a tire he would have made a dig run very interesting with those 4.10's. If I see him around again I'll try to set it up.
It would be interesting to see the two GTO's race, once with Jay driving and once with you driving.
I don't think I've ever seen a full bolt-on Mach 1 around here. There was another red one (5-speed) that had a few bolt-ons and ran high 12's. He was hanging out with the guy that had the supercharged S197 that I raced, but I never got a chance to line up with the Mach 1.
When the Mach 1 pulled in, I told punishmentcycle and his eyes lit up, lol. We weren't out to make anyone look foolish, and just wanted a good friendly race, but I couldn't pass up the chance to race one after that other thread
punishmentcycle made sure the GTO went along for the ride 
I've never been in an automatic Mach 1, but I'm guessing that speed wasn't favorable to him. I bet a dig or low roll would have let him do much better.
I don't think I've ever seen a full bolt-on Mach 1 around here. There was another red one (5-speed) that had a few bolt-ons and ran high 12's. He was hanging out with the guy that had the supercharged S197 that I raced, but I never got a chance to line up with the Mach 1.
When the Mach 1 pulled in, I told punishmentcycle and his eyes lit up, lol. We weren't out to make anyone look foolish, and just wanted a good friendly race, but I couldn't pass up the chance to race one after that other thread
punishmentcycle made sure the GTO went along for the ride I've never been in an automatic Mach 1, but I'm guessing that speed wasn't favorable to him. I bet a dig or low roll would have let him do much better.
08-09-2012, 12:00 PM
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Me? I would think all the basics, plus headers, gears, and sticky tires. Most of the ones I run into are just your basic cold air, x-pipe, catback cars. Some might have a tune or gears, but I haven't run into one with all of the above.
08-09-2012, 12:45 PM
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few years back, i raced my buddies mach 1 with my gto. My gto was trapping 114-115mph at that time. I had an extra 500lbs of passengers in the car. My buddies mach had an extra 150lbs in it. His car was full exhaust (longtubes back), 4.88 gears, 28 inch slicks, skinnies, tubular front and rear suspension, ewp, ported upper and lower intake, air intake, ud pulley, pro shift trans, advanced cams, race battery, weight reduction, etc etc. We ran from 40-120... i edged him out by a car length. And the car also has nitrous. Hes gone 11.1 at 122 on a 100 shot. I ran him on motor. Thats pretty much as max effort as you get. Short of gutting the interior.
08-09-2012, 01:46 PM
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That's my impression too, but wanted to make sure. Outside of exhaust and an intake there isn't much more that will increase hp, and I'd say most of the machs you run into probably are full bolt on. I would consider my car a full bolt on, wouldn't you? (- the n2o)
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08-09-2012, 03:09 PM
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LMAO Both runs were NA in the G8, and the GTO was doing good. Its obv Automach is going to come in and complain.
He can't argue about it being automatic, because he has an auto that he's waiting for a converter for. Maybe he'll argue that it didn't have a converter in it, and hence wasn't full bolt on? Most likely, if a manual Mach gets torched into cinders, he'll claim the driver was granny shifting... not double clutching like he should.
08-09-2012, 04:13 PM
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I do disagree that most of the Mach 1's people will run into are full bolt-on cars. I don't think I've ever seen one with headers in person and alot don't seem to have gears. There are definitely a bunch out there that are, but I think you're more likely to run into a cold air/catback/x-pipe car.
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08-09-2012, 04:31 PM
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Well I wouldn't go off what automach says, I think his claims are grandiose lol. I might have mislead a little, when I ran 13.1 at 107 it had gears exhaust stock weight and a bad tune. Also my exhaust is anything but efficient (it does a u-turn in the muffler for side exhaust) When I added the 85mm maf and intake I had to add 20% fuel at wot, and I don't know if the intake and maf was enough to gain 3 to 5 mph. I know my car won't see 11's without nitrous. I don't feel the 4.6 responds to bolt ons as well as the LSX but with that said we are talking about a motor almost 2ltrs smaller. I think it will take a bolt on Mach to hang with a stock GTO and a race car to hang with a bolt on GTO.
