2011 C6 ZR1 vs 2013 GT500
08-14-2012, 01:22 PM
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Good run. Dude with the ZR1 can drive pretty well.
Not going to lie, I got scared for a second there. ZR1 came through as expected though. Those '13 GT500's sure are a force to be reckoned with though!
Not going to lie, I got scared for a second there. ZR1 came through as expected though. Those '13 GT500's sure are a force to be reckoned with though!
08-14-2012, 01:40 PM
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Whoa Billy...let's not get offended here. I was simply stating your claims were all wrong that is all. Just telling it how is, no offense intended. 
I'm aware of this. The old ones ran the number too with a better tire than what came from the factory. Also, look at how the '13 GT500 stacks up stock for stock with a C6 Z06: Roughly 700 pounds heavier but with ~150whp advantage yet the C6 Z will run at its door in a drag and roll race. Think about it...
A close friends '13 GT500 weighed in at 3750 without him in it. Another '13 the same day tipped in at 3771. For comparison, a 2011 ZR1 will weigh in at around 3350 dry. Closer to a 400lb difference between the two. The '09 Z's like my current one without Nav, side airbags, etc. weigh in the least at around 3320.
I'm not saying the car in question is making 740. What I am stating is its surely a much larger gap than than what you stated, and the Mustang is making atleast 100whp more than the Z with those mods.
I'm not sure what this car traps. All I know is its going to take more than what its got to run with a intake/tune ZR1.
I'm aware of this. The old ones ran the number too with a better tire than what came from the factory. Also, look at how the '13 GT500 stacks up stock for stock with a C6 Z06: Roughly 700 pounds heavier but with ~150whp advantage yet the C6 Z will run at its door in a drag and roll race. Think about it...
A close friends '13 GT500 weighed in at 3750 without him in it. Another '13 the same day tipped in at 3771. For comparison, a 2011 ZR1 will weigh in at around 3350 dry. Closer to a 400lb difference between the two. The '09 Z's like my current one without Nav, side airbags, etc. weigh in the least at around 3320.
I'm not saying the car in question is making 740. What I am stating is its surely a much larger gap than than what you stated, and the Mustang is making atleast 100whp more than the Z with those mods.
I'm not sure what this car traps. All I know is its going to take more than what its got to run with a intake/tune ZR1.
Keep in mind a h/c z06 making the same power as a zr1 will roll out on a zr1. Ive seen that many times... the z06 is in a world of its own.
08-14-2012, 01:53 PM
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08-14-2012, 01:55 PM
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no.. it comes with one. Evolution and lethals cars use the stock cai. There is literally no point to changing it. The main power adders to this car.... pulley, tune, x pipe. X pipe is probably the most important since stock cats can only flow so much air no matter how much boost. GT500s pick up almost 40whp with just an offroad x pipe.
08-14-2012, 02:02 PM
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08-14-2012, 02:24 PM
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no.. it comes with one. Evolution and lethals cars use the stock cai. There is literally no point to changing it. The main power adders to this car.... pulley, tune, x pipe. X pipe is probably the most important since stock cats can only flow so much air no matter how much boost. GT500s pick up almost 40whp with just an offroad x pipe.
This from C&L:
The installation of our air intake upgrade, without ANY computer tuning adjustments delivered average gains of between 17 to 18 peak HP over stock with torque improvements of anywhere between 20 to 27 ft/lbs in the midrange (4,000 to 4,500 RPM) over the comparable factory baseline testing. We have provided charts that show both the “best” runs for the stock air intake and our upgrade assembly, along with the second “backup” pulls in each configuration. You will notice that with the stock baseline testing, power dropped off more noticeably with the factory air intake assembly on the second test than it did with our upgrade assembly, delivering more substantial gains than what was shown in the “best” pulls for each configuration. For each corresponding backup pull, we saw similar gains to those represented by the two examples provided on this page. This shows a clear trend that the installation of our upgrade air intake assembly delivers a consistent and solid gain by itself on even a completely stock 2013 GT500 vehicle.
There is also a dyno graph comparing stock vs CAI in the link below:
http://www.cnlperformance.com/2013GT500.html
08-14-2012, 02:50 PM
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^Not true. There are good gains to be had with a CAI over the stock airbox. C&L picked up almost 20 peak HP on the stock tune. Diablosport also saw gains over stock though not exactly sure on the numbers.
This from C&L:
The installation of our air intake upgrade, without ANY computer tuning adjustments delivered average gains of between 17 to 18 peak HP over stock with torque improvements of anywhere between 20 to 27 ft/lbs in the midrange (4,000 to 4,500 RPM) over the comparable factory baseline testing. We have provided charts that show both the “best” runs for the stock air intake and our upgrade assembly, along with the second “backup” pulls in each configuration. You will notice that with the stock baseline testing, power dropped off more noticeably with the factory air intake assembly on the second test than it did with our upgrade assembly, delivering more substantial gains than what was shown in the “best” pulls for each configuration. For each corresponding backup pull, we saw similar gains to those represented by the two examples provided on this page. This shows a clear trend that the installation of our upgrade air intake assembly delivers a consistent and solid gain by itself on even a completely stock 2013 GT500 vehicle.
There is also a dyno graph comparing stock vs CAI in the link below:
http://www.cnlperformance.com/2013GT500.html
This from C&L:
The installation of our air intake upgrade, without ANY computer tuning adjustments delivered average gains of between 17 to 18 peak HP over stock with torque improvements of anywhere between 20 to 27 ft/lbs in the midrange (4,000 to 4,500 RPM) over the comparable factory baseline testing. We have provided charts that show both the “best” runs for the stock air intake and our upgrade assembly, along with the second “backup” pulls in each configuration. You will notice that with the stock baseline testing, power dropped off more noticeably with the factory air intake assembly on the second test than it did with our upgrade assembly, delivering more substantial gains than what was shown in the “best” pulls for each configuration. For each corresponding backup pull, we saw similar gains to those represented by the two examples provided on this page. This shows a clear trend that the installation of our upgrade air intake assembly delivers a consistent and solid gain by itself on even a completely stock 2013 GT500 vehicle.
There is also a dyno graph comparing stock vs CAI in the link below:
http://www.cnlperformance.com/2013GT500.html
I do remember back a few years ago C and L stuff and their claims were garbage. Lee Bender was sleezy but no experience with their new stuff.
08-14-2012, 02:58 PM
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Secondly, I've purchased many items from C&L dating back to my pushrod 5.0 days and have never been disappointed or saw any "bogus" claims with their products. That has been my experience with them.
08-14-2012, 04:06 PM
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Hey GT500 guys,
can a 3.4L whipple GT500 push 1134rwhp lol? There's a guy claiming his is 1134rwhp and wants to race me. I said sure from a dig no problem. I'm thinking his car is probably actually only in the 7-8xx and with his street tires he ain't going no where.
can a 3.4L whipple GT500 push 1134rwhp lol? There's a guy claiming his is 1134rwhp and wants to race me. I said sure from a dig no problem. I'm thinking his car is probably actually only in the 7-8xx and with his street tires he ain't going no where.
08-14-2012, 04:38 PM
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Should be a low 10 sec at right around 140+mph...
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