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Old 08-22-2012 | 08:17 AM
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The GTR's midrange, top end, aero, transmission and gearing compensate for it's weight. Everytime, the GTR gets a car right off the back. There's no delay or boost lag. It's instant power and excellent gear shifts are what keep it ahead of the competition. I bet after 150 the ZR1 would have come back though. The GTR seemed to get 1-1 1/2 cars out and hold its lead there.
Old 08-22-2012 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 2SSARME
570rwhp 33xx lbs vs 585awhp 38xx lbs


Am I missing something here?
Yes, the GTR has more TQ a ton more gearing than the ZR1 it's been proven time and time again.

It seems that the Corvette platform at the least needs the same power, but usually more to keep up with a GTR on the street. I'm still waiting for a 800rwhp Vette race a 800awhp GTR wish that race would come out somewhere sometime.
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The only excuse that needs to be given is that the OP's GT-R is badass.
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Originally Posted by evangto87
fast GTR.. Def an impressive win. Driver is pretty good but still has a lazy clutch foot. He is clearly power shifting which makes it appear hes shifting very fast. You can hear him hit rev limiter everytime he shifts. But his shifting isnt losing him the race... the GTR is just plain faster. Which is mind boggling considering the weight difference.
Looks like he was he was doin a good job to me . Those cars have a factory no lift shift built in. Maybe you should take some lessons from him....lol Maybe your tranny would live.

GTR's are a badass....as much as I don't like to admit it.
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Originally Posted by evangto87
fast GTR.. Def an impressive win. Driver is pretty good but still has a lazy clutch foot. He is clearly power shifting which makes it appear hes shifting very fast. You can hear him hit rev limiter everytime he shifts. But his shifting isnt losing him the race... the GTR is just plain faster. Which is mind boggling considering the weight difference.
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I think Hio's account has been hacked... he just gave a compliment to an import...lol


Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Looks like he was he was doin a good job to me . Those cars have a factory no lift shift built in. Maybe you should take some lessons from him....lol Maybe your tranny would live.

GTR's are a badass....as much as I don't like to admit it.

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Old 08-22-2012 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Looks like he was he was doin a good job to me . Those cars have a factory no lift shift built in. Maybe you should take some lessons from him....lol Maybe your tranny would live.

GTR's are a badass....as much as I don't like to admit it.
I never said he was doing a bad job. Just pointing something out is all. But u will find i tend to not throw compliments out that easy when it comes to shifting. And my trans is broken because i drive it. And i refuse to not drive it. Ill just keep fixing it if i have to.
Old 08-22-2012 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by reeperz28
Sipping on that haterade!
not hating... just pointing things out. Im a realist...so people tend to think im being negative. The zr1 guy is a good driver... not taking that away. But he is still a bit lazy on the clutch pedal. All im saying. His shifts were good in the first race. After that they slowed down a bit. Listen to gear shifts... although hes moving the shifter just as fast and laying on the gas the whole time... you hear rev limiter for a split second.

NightmareT/As brother Scott... he can drive.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Looks like he was he was doin a good job to me . Those cars have a factory no lift shift built in. Maybe you should take some lessons from him....lol Maybe your tranny would live.

GTR's are a badass....as much as I don't like to admit it.
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Originally Posted by reeperz28
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before this turns into another **** match, i shall humbly exit the thread. Toodles
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Originally Posted by evangto87
I never said he was doing a bad job. Just pointing something out is all. But u will find i tend to not throw compliments out that easy when it comes to shifting. And my trans is broken because i drive it. And i refuse to not drive it. Ill just keep fixing it if i have to.
Your trans is broken because you over drive it. Your forcing it to do something that it can't do and live. I've been there to, you can back it up a bit and not open your wallet so much. There is more to a good "drive" than killing it. A good "drive" also allows the car to live.

Or mod it till it lives....that's what I did.
Old 08-22-2012 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Your trans is broken because you over drive it. Your forcing it to do something that it can't do and live. I've been there to, you can back it up a bit and not open your wallet so much. There is more to a good "drive" than killing it. A good "drive" also allows the car to live.

Or mod it till it lives....that's what I did.
In my defense....this trans isnt exactly a t-56/6060 standard. Its only rated to 380 ft lbs... which is sillyness. I can beef it up a bit to handle 500. But ultimately... the only real fix is a magnum 6060 conversion...er uh 6k later
Old 08-22-2012 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by evangto87
In my defense....this trans isnt exactly a t-56/6060 standard. Its only rated to 380 ft lbs... which is sillyness. I can beef it up a bit to handle 500. But ultimately... the only real fix is a magnum 6060 conversion...er uh 6k later
I agree....you should take that into consideration when your rowing gears. It is what it is at this point. But I can guarantee you one thing. You will have more fun "drive"ing it to it's potential than breaking it a bit past it's potential.
Old 08-22-2012 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I agree....you should take that into consideration when your rowing gears. It is what it is at this point. But I can guarantee you one thing. You will have more fun "drive"ing it to it's potential than breaking it a bit past it's potential.
problem is im usually racing cars where that lil extra will be the difference between a win and a loss. When i race cars im considerably faster then, i tend to shift very slow.
Old 08-22-2012 | 12:59 PM
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It's a loss if your broke anyway. Both in wallet and car. That little bit is very little. A all out run with speed shifting in my car when it was a ls1 was maybe .1 and 1mph difference vs lifting and doing quick solid shifts. Sometimes less if it spun on the wot shift. Plus consistency was better and it was easier on parts.
Old 08-22-2012 | 01:01 PM
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Great races.. Exhaust on the ZR1 would make it very interesting.. I love GTR's tho just incredible machines
Old 08-22-2012 | 01:52 PM
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GTR is taking the hit everytime though, right when his 3rd finger goes up he nails it.. the vette as you can see hits it a split second after the GTR is spooled up..
Old 08-22-2012 | 01:54 PM
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there really arent many excuses able to be used here... the GTR is just faster. I miss the c6 z06 days. The bolt on cammed z06 making this power would walk both vehicles.
Old 08-22-2012 | 01:57 PM
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Nice runs PDV25. I think I've seen most of your videos. I wish I ran into that much action in my GTR.

Originally Posted by 2SSARME
If my shitty chinese made chinese auto trans can pull on a alpha6 2012 gtr, tell me how this zr1 is unable to pull on this specific gtr?


Not taking anything away from GTR, just wondering if I am missing something here. I expected the ZR1 to come around top end and pull the GTR hard.
Typically Alpha 6 kits are on pump gas, which means they are significantly slower than PDV25's E85 GTR. You vs. PDV25 would probably be a good race.

Originally Posted by jasil
Yes, the GTR has more TQ a ton more gearing than the ZR1 it's been proven time and time again.

It seems that the Corvette platform at the least needs the same power, but usually more to keep up with a GTR on the street. I'm still waiting for a 800rwhp Vette race a 800awhp GTR wish that race would come out somewhere sometime.
Here's a video of a GTR and ZR1 each with ~800hp.

http://youtu.be/2uORyZI1VdU

^^ I'm not saying this is the only outcome. I'm sure if you search youtube, there are videos of ZR1's beating GTRs @ similar power levels. I'll post up another video as soon as I find an 800hp ZR1. haha



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