TheHitman

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I didn't know a car that tops out at 195mph doesn't have much top end. You have to figure also that the GT500 is making 100 more hp and weighs about 100lbs less. I would figure those would account for that top end power.

AWDTBSS

Considering the older GTRs barely trap over 120 it seems and the new one traps 124 but does very bottom 11s/10s. They just seem to die out up top on roll races

evangto87

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It seemed right to me. Keep in mind, the GT500 is much closer to 130mph trap speed then people think. Car and driver took it to 126... car and driver doesnt DRIVE cars. They took the c6 z to 11.8 at 122. We all know the Z can go faster then that.

AWDTBSS

Has anyone got close to 130 yet? Last time I was looking it was hard to tell since most were barely in the 11s and just having traction issues (real owners)

evangto87

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a few tune only cars on Drag radials have gone mid 10s at over 130. Tunes are worth about 30hp on these cars. But regardless of tune.. They have the potential to run 128-130 with just traction and hard driving.

UBoysPlayBall?

A '13 GT500 is closer to a 124-126 mph car right around stock Z06 territory. 130 is stretching it a bit.

AWDTBSS

You sure only 30hp? On Lethals site they are getting 70whp from just CAI/Tune or does the CAI really help that much with a tune on those cars
Ya thats what I thought, which is near what a GTR traps yet it got pulled fairly easy up top after the GTR out initially (atleast from the 60 rolls)

evangto87

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not really. It IS faster then a z06 given both ***** to the wall drivers. trust me it takes a lot to admit that because the c6 z is my all time favorite car. But you have to understand, almost every single straight line test (including bad drivers etc), the gt500 has gone faster. Car and driver went 126 with it, Car and driver went 122 with the competition tired z06. We all know the z06 has trapped much faster then 122... its no different for the gt500. The car just came out. Wait till we get to see the air changes where guys actually strap some tire to them and really drive them.

evangto87

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Think about it... the GTR and z06 are fairly equal. They trap exactly the same. The GTR gets pulled well in this video. And it doesnt get just pulled up top. It gets pulled on the entire race...just gets worse as speeds increase.

UBoysPlayBall?

Read carefully, I said "right around" Z06 territory, albeit a mph or two faster. Evan Smith got his hands on one at the drag strip and trapped 126 though conditions weren't exactly ideal. The way you said it made it seem a little to easy to do with a bone-stock car with stock rubber. Actual proof remains to be seen though.

TheHitman

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You're talking like these cars have very little top end. You are forgetting that the new GT500 makes a lot more power and weighs less. If both cars were at the same power level then you can say otherwise.

As far as top end I wouldn't say they die up top but compared to their acceleration down low it's not as high. Compared to cars that trap the exact same as a GT-R you can see the GT-R pulling through the entire race.

Also stock 2013's GT-Rs have seen 126mph traps under ideal conditions with many in the 125 trap range.

evangto87

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I base what a stock car can do off of some form of sticky rubber. I dont judge a car by what it runs on street tires. You arent gonna hook a 600whp rwd car on a pirelli p zero.. i can hook my 420whp car on that tire

AWDTBSS

It's a fast car don't get me wrong just not impressed with the top end, maybe because its so fast down low I expect more Idk. And if they have trapped 126 and so have the GT500 then why did it pull so easy from the 60. Is that a dead spot in the car or something, cuz u said it pulls threw out the race if they trap similar

GT500 is slightly faster than a Z06 seems like half a car from the run between them

TheHitman

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It's not power or even weight that really kills top end in the GT-Rs, its the gearing. A 60 roll isn't really that good of a race due to the RPM. I can pull a 40 or 50 roll with ease, I will do 60's but not often. Can't complain though because with enough tire and power the stock gearing can see 230mph, and the car itself can see over 190mph (I've personally hit 190mph in my car stock).

The 2013 GT500's have gearing similar to the Z06 hence the reason they pull so hard up top.

One last thing, GT500's have trapped a best of 129mph, average of 125mph, 2013 GT-Rs have trapped a best of 126mph, average of 124mph. Higher rolls usually lean more towards the performance of the best trap speed compared to the average.

ohioborn80

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I just want to see the GT500 run in great weather come this winter to see what it can do stock. See if it can get a 10 out of it.

Mike Morris

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I know a guy who bought one from a Michigan dealer that sells them(Gt500) for sticker if you guys are interested.....

I bet at Cecil or Atco a GT500 will hit 129-130MPH in November

AWDTBSS

Link to the 129 trap GT500?
Gotcha about the 60roll and gearing

NOLAG05

Second that... got a buddy at home in Detroit that got one for sticker... Anywhere out side the midwest i have seen everything marked up! When i first got to Maryland they where still selling Ford GT's and they where over 110k here and barely breaking 90 at home in Detroit.

UBoysPlayBall?

That is NOT STOCK!


Stock = as in the way it came from the factory, and the last I checked cars don't come with drag radials or slicks from the factory.

In that case, my vette is a high 11-second @ 12x car all day in stock trim. LOL

evangto87

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my point is that the gt500 consistantly has 3-4mph on the z06 in all tests. Car and driver took the z06 to 11.8 at 122... the took the gt500 to 11.4 at 126. With drag radials people have gotten 125-126 pretty consistantly out of the z06 (a car that is completely stock on a factory wheel with a drag radial is still a stock car...lets not have this arguement, its retarded, your just able to use the potential of the car that is given to you from the factory). And with a gt500 all stock with just a drag radial, you will see 128-130 traps.

And i hope u could get into the high 11s on street tires with your car. Hell i went 11.4 on 360 treadwear sumitomos on factory wheels in my GTO...and it only trapped 120..