H/c Ta vs bolt on 5.0 and C6
10-30-2012, 01:50 PM
#481
He said he has yet to make a pass with the latest mods just incase you can't read. Other than that not to down play mikes car but what makes it so special? His stalled auto car trapping what a "decent" h/c m6 car should. His car is efficient your car isn't and you band aid the problem by throwing a kit on it. That's all I have to say to you, we've been going on for pages now and you just can't seem to contemplate your car is inefficiently tired. Fix your car or don't it really makes no diffrence to me.
10-30-2012, 01:50 PM
#482
ive only ever ran at test and tunes and they always have the track prepped. The track was actually over prepped if you ask me... i was still tearing vht off the ground at the 1000 ft mark. And the car is stock, with stock tune. Only requires 91 octane for factory timing tables... race gas is literally pointless. My friend is friends with this guy. Never mentioned anything about race gas. Race gas had nothing to do with that cars gains. Its all in the 330ft. The car isnt moving faster after that
10-30-2012, 01:58 PM
#484
you guys are totally missing my point here.....
He went 12.36 at 116 on the same wheel/tire i went 12.31 at 117 on. His pass was actually more composed then mine was because i lifted from the wheel hop.
Its the same car with 15s and 28 inch drs. Going 11.7 at 117. The point is to show the difference in how the car functions from the stock 19 inch wheel and tires to a 15 inch wheel on a 28 inch DR.
He went 12.36 at 116 on the same wheel/tire i went 12.31 at 117 on. His pass was actually more composed then mine was because i lifted from the wheel hop.
Its the same car with 15s and 28 inch drs. Going 11.7 at 117. The point is to show the difference in how the car functions from the stock 19 inch wheel and tires to a 15 inch wheel on a 28 inch DR.
10-30-2012, 02:05 PM
#485
you guys are totally missing my point here.....
He went 12.36 at 116 on the same wheel/tire i went 12.31 at 117 on. His pass was actually more composed then mine was because i lifted from the wheel hop.
Its the same car with 15s and 28 inch drs. Going 11.7 at 117. The point is to show the difference in how the car functions from the stock 19 inch wheel and tires to a 15 inch wheel on a 28 inch DR.
He went 12.36 at 116 on the same wheel/tire i went 12.31 at 117 on. His pass was actually more composed then mine was because i lifted from the wheel hop.
Its the same car with 15s and 28 inch drs. Going 11.7 at 117. The point is to show the difference in how the car functions from the stock 19 inch wheel and tires to a 15 inch wheel on a 28 inch DR.
10-30-2012, 02:13 PM
#486
and like i said. His 12.3 pass was much more composed then mine. He was still able to shift second fast and stayed in it through his wheel hop. No doubt i would have went 12.1 on a similar pass such as his... but oh well. It is what it is... i went 12.3... its slow
10-30-2012, 02:16 PM
#487
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Ran it on my street tires for the 12.3 @ 117 run. Then switched to drag radials and wheel hop got worse or second gear locked me out.. to the point where i didnt complete a pass. Only pass i complete i went 12.4 at 117 on the DRs. It was mechanical suspension issues.. not traction issues. 1.90 on streets, 1.95 on the DRs... but my 60 fts werent the problem. I didnt even get a chance to work on launching the car because of the 1-2 issues i was having. It was a low profile drag radial.
The track was run horribly all day. 2 1/2 hours in between runs with no more then a total of 50 cars. It was pathetic. NED needs to shut down permanently.
The track was run horribly all day. 2 1/2 hours in between runs with no more then a total of 50 cars. It was pathetic. NED needs to shut down permanently.
10-30-2012, 02:21 PM
#488
exactly... it will be worth the extra 45 minutes to hit LVD or Atco. No more NED for me. You cant learn a car waiting in line for 2 1/2 hours. Absolute joke. There not what they used to be. One time i made 21 passes on a test and tune day there. I started off at 13.2 at 108 in my bolt on gto... by the end of the day i was running 12.1 at 113. And that was an auto on DRs.
10-30-2012, 02:22 PM
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Redfire... this is the same guy who has the record for fastest on a tire. Hes gone 11.5 at 118 on a 15 with 28 inch dr. This is his fastest pass on the factory wheel/tire. He stays in it on his 1-2... i lifted.
Hes also on his third transmission
Also note how his car squats.. mine doesnt... it lifts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFe2-...feature=relmfu
And now the same car with 15 inch wheels/28 inch tires swap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=VLmXeUflf4I
Hes also on his third transmission
Also note how his car squats.. mine doesnt... it lifts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFe2-...feature=relmfu
And now the same car with 15 inch wheels/28 inch tires swap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=VLmXeUflf4I
10-30-2012, 02:27 PM
#491
10-30-2012, 02:39 PM
#493
ive never heard of sucha thing. And personally... from having been tuning my car on the dyno... the added 2* of timing, did nothing but give the car 5hp.
10-30-2012, 02:48 PM
#494
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10-30-2012, 02:52 PM
#495
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adding IGNITION timing adds a few hp for sure, but changing CAM TIMING adds a lot more. i dont think the PCM can tune for race gas by itself, but adding race gas and the whole managment program also = 10.1 second quarter mile @ 3000lbs. that is a SEALED NMRA stock engine.
great tuning for E85 or race gas is incredible power per cubic inch.
10-30-2012, 03:03 PM
#496
10-30-2012, 03:04 PM
#497
Its been done. These cars will pull add timing based on gas. Knock etc. Seen it in my car and 10-15 other n/a and SC cars. Hmm best tuners in the mustang world show it can do it but yet it can't do. You can also turn this off in the tune.
The cam timing is where a lot of tunes differ. This where you see two cars with same mods but not tunes make way different power on same dyno
The cam timing is where a lot of tunes differ. This where you see two cars with same mods but not tunes make way different power on same dyno
10-30-2012, 03:08 PM
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10-30-2012, 03:12 PM
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Its been done. These cars will pull add timing based on gas. Knock etc. Seen it in my car and 10-15 other n/a and SC cars. Hmm best tuners in the mustang world show it can do it but yet it can't do. You can also turn this off in the tune.
The cam timing is where a lot of tunes differ. This where you see two cars with same mods but not tunes make way different power on same dyno
The cam timing is where a lot of tunes differ. This where you see two cars with same mods but not tunes make way different power on same dyno