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Old 10-25-2012, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by AWDTBSS
Ya, cuz not being able to beat a not even full bolt ls2 means u can run next to any h/c ls1. Specially one that runs with c6zs.....
You made a really stupid blanket statement
Whats your deffinition of bench racing?
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Originally Posted by AWDTBSS
He would be lucky to pull one on motor how his car sits. Real mild H/C LS2 is usually what it takes....bolt ons that's not even a race.
I will let lilmiller speak for his own car. but your stock z couldn't even pull on a h/c ls1...so I don't think you have much room to talk.
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Originally Posted by 00silverGTP
Whats your deffinition of bench racing?
what are all the mods to your car?
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Yup, no room to talk he only ran 10.9@124.8 lol. And from a 60 I pulled a car.

There's a difference between bench racing and just making dumb statements like u did.
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Originally Posted by AWDTBSS
Yup, no room to talk he only ran 10.9@124.8 lol. And from a 60 I pulled a car.

There's a difference between bench racing and just making dumb statements like u did.
what was the dumb statement? im confused, your bench racing your car and bays....no?
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Originally Posted by evangto87
what are all the mods to your car?
paceaseter LT, ory, hooker cb, p/p TB, ls6 intake, ms3, ported 243s from AI, ls7 clutch, prostars, dyno tune.
Old 10-25-2012, 11:35 AM
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Sooo, Are there any videos of Ls1's beating 5.0's?? It seems like its just always the other way around. damnit lol
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Originally Posted by 00silverGTP
yes I would. I don't care what your car runs or who you have beat. I would put my car against ANY h/c ls1. well, thats full weight...lol. track times and dyno # don't mean anything. btw - we are talking about from a roll on the street.
I'm talking about this dumb statement. Saying ANY was retarded
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Originally Posted by AWDTBSS
I'm talking about this dumb statement. Saying ANY was retarded
why? are you not confident that your z would run with other c6z with the same mods? I didn't say I would beat ANY, I said I would run with them. My whole point is that my car runs very well for the mods, period. I lost to a faster car, which btw ran door to door with lilmillers h/c ls2....lol
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Originally Posted by 00silverGTP
paceaseter LT, ory, hooker cb, p/p TB, ls6 intake, ms3, ported 243s from AI, ls7 clutch, prostars, dyno tune.
And you have trapped 121? If so id say thats pretty good for its mods. Theres lots of room for gains though with more parts. For your mods it runs good, but there will be stronger H/C ls1s out there.

My buddies AFR205/LG cam, full bolt on, 4.10 geared car trapped 124-125 consistantly without raping it down the track at full weight.
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My car is basically stock so its different, than saying H/C LS1 there can be a huge difference in setups is what I'm getting at.
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Originally Posted by evangto87
And you have trapped 121? If so id say thats pretty good for its mods. Theres lots of room for gains though with more parts. For your mods it runs good, but there will be stronger H/C ls1s out there.

My buddies AFR205/LG cam, full bolt on, 4.10 geared car trapped 124-125 consistantly without raping it down the track at full weight.
no I never trapped 121. not sure where zyborg got that. I trapped 116 with my clutch sticking to floor and missing 2nd. lol. have no clue what it will trap. and I know there is a ton of room for more. still have the 342s which suck with the ms3.
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Originally Posted by evangto87
And you have trapped 121? If so id say thats pretty good for its mods. Theres lots of room for gains though with more parts. For your mods it runs good, but there will be stronger H/C ls1s out there.

My buddies AFR205/LG cam, full bolt on, 4.10 geared car trapped 124-125 consistantly without raping it down the track at full weight.
Aftermarket TFS/AFR heads do wonders. Not many willing to dish out the $2500 though.
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Originally Posted by evangto87
Maybe one day people will understand no 2 cars are the same. No 2 dynos are the same. You cant say any full bolt on 5.0 will beat any full bolt on h/c ls1...and vise versa... you wanna know who wins the race in the end?


The guy with more money. Theres always something you can do to make a car faster. The term full bolt on is shady in itself... cars are never full bolt on because theres always something you can do to it to make it faster. I know of h/c ls1s that struggle to trap 115. I know of h/c ls1 that trap 130.

No matter how you swing it, the cars in the video are decent running. The 5.0 edged out the TA motor to motor, and the h/c ls2 vette edged out the 5.0 motor to motor. To me... theres nothing wrong with any of the cars. The sooner people realize 5.0s can trap into the 120s with bolt ons, the sooner they will see the light in most races. Hell mine might go into the 120s with ricer mods. That is all
So if I read this right, qtr mile times don't matter. dyno numbers don't matter. But trap speeds matter?

Ok.
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Originally Posted by Thunderkyss
So if I read this right, qtr mile times don't matter. dyno numbers don't matter. But trap speeds matter?

Ok.
Of those three things....when racing from a roll...yes. dyno numbers mattering the least. But don't look into it too much. There are obviously more factors.
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Originally Posted by 00silverGTP
no I never trapped 121. not sure where zyborg got that. I trapped 116 with my clutch sticking to floor and missing 2nd. lol. have no clue what it will trap. and I know there is a ton of room for more. still have the 342s which suck with the ms3.
3.42 gears
LS6 intake
Pacesetter LTs with a single exhaust
Ported stock castings

And you're claiming you can run with ANY similar weight H/C car? You would be LUCKY to see a 120 trap.

I was running down bolt-on LS2 C6s years ago with 380rwhp at 3700lbs.

You need to stop running your mouth.
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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
You need to stop running your mouth.
or what?

didn't think I was running my mouth. never called anyone out, never said I would beat anyone. Simply stated my car will run with others like it....lol.

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Originally Posted by 00silverGTP
no I never trapped 121. not sure where zyborg got that.
It was a guesstimation based on how i have seen your car perform, i would be willing to put money that your car is right around a 120-121 mph trap properly driven and in good conditions.

I think your car performes well for what it is, in my opinion set ups such as yours typically net 118-119 traps....
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I would blow your Trans Am into the weeds. Your car is slow for a heads cam car. Sorry.

Heads cam LS1s can vary in regards to ET and MPH depending on weight,heads used and intake.

Ill run ANY bolt 5.0. Bring it to Cecil or Orlando Speedway in a few weeks when I move.
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I dont understand why everyone says a H/C ls1 that makes 420whp+ should easily trap 120+ and a new bolt on 5.0 making the same power with same weight with far superior gearing cant do it unless its a gutted race car.

To me... that is NOTHING but biast opinions. Hate to say it but the MT82 puts the power down better then any Tremec in existance. They might be weaker, but there gearing is 10x that of the 6060s. That is NOT a biast opinion.

Carry on techers..


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