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Old 12-02-2012, 01:40 PM
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Its a close run. Im not going to argue for 12 pages about it as i really dont care that much to argue over minimal tenths. I posted before saying a mildy modded eagle engine 5.7 will be a good run with a stock 6.1 engine. Could go either way.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_High_Feature_engine

Here's my case and point: LY7 shows up as RPO code for Buick Rendezvous, Cadillac STS and CTS, GMC Arcadia, G6 GXP, etc... but as you can see the ratings are all different, thats due to different intake manifolds, different exhaust manifolds on occasion, and even different cam setups.
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I understand what you are saying.
Old 12-02-2012, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bloodykisses
I understand what you are saying.
i don't understand what you're saying though? stock RT's routinely running low 13's high 12's at WHAT mph???
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A well driven Eagle 5.7 in decent weather is a mid 13sec car all day long. Period. Its not far off from a 6.1 . 6.1 guys are in denial and get butthurt by this fact but it is what it is. Ive watched a tuned Eagle make MORE low end TQ on the dyno than my RECORD HOLDING cammed 6.1.

Put a tuned,cai,dr,exhaust Eagle against a STOCK 6.1 with the same drag radial/driver and im putting my money on the Eagle. The 6.1 will likely trap a mph or two more but the RT would likely 60 foot the **** outta the 6.1 to the point where it wouldnt have enough track to catch up. Now if this were on the street and ran past the 1/4 then yes the 6.1 would come around eventually.

The fbody should take the win.
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Originally Posted by GotHemi?
A well driven Eagle 5.7 in decent weather is a mid 13sec car all day long. Period. Its not far off from a 6.1 . 6.1 guys are in denial and get butthurt by this fact but it is what it is. Ive watched a tuned Eagle make MORE low end TQ on the dyno than my RECORD HOLDING cammed 6.1.

Put a tuned,cai,dr,exhaust Eagle against a STOCK 6.1 with the same drag radial/driver and im putting my money on the Eagle. The 6.1 will likely trap a mph or two more but the RT would likely 60 foot the **** outta the 6.1 to the point where it wouldnt have enough track to catch up. Now if this were on the street and ran past the 1/4 then yes the 6.1 would come around eventually.

The fbody should take the win.
From what you've seen, what does the 5.7 trap stock?
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Originally Posted by odthetruth
From what you've seen, what does the 5.7 trap stock?
Eagle 5.7, 103-106.
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In great air (hero runs) slightly higher of course.
Old 12-03-2012, 07:33 AM
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Im not trying to start any brand wars here but im just not seeing it? I have raced a 12' challenger and a 11' charger and destroyed both horrible, both auto cars. In the form i raced thm I ran a 13.6 @ 104. I hae vids of both, Im just not sure how there that quick when i destroyed both version and I ran the time your saying they run. What DA do they do those runs in? Mine was around 3,000.
Old 12-03-2012, 09:39 AM
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I'm having a hard time believing this too. Can you link us to a vid of stock or I/E/T 09+ RTs in the 12s or slips with listed mods? I have gone to Charger Forums and Charger Forumz and I'm just not seeing it.
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Originally Posted by Bloodykisses
2009+ RT is a low 13, high 12's stock at around 106-110 in most cases with minor to no mods. The Eagle engine woke it up a bunch. I still believe you should take him though. Post back results.
lmao You are so full of **** dude. I don't know where you are getting your facts from but here on earth your bullshit doesn't fly.
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*goes to bump my recent thread where i destroyed pre 2010 challenger.

Stock, i just dont see them runnin low 13.
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Originally Posted by GotHemi?
A well driven Eagle 5.7 in decent weather is a mid 13sec car all day long. Period. Its not far off from a 6.1 . 6.1 guys are in denial and get butthurt by this fact but it is what it is. Ive watched a tuned Eagle make MORE low end TQ on the dyno than my RECORD HOLDING cammed 6.1.

Put a tuned,cai,dr,exhaust Eagle against a STOCK 6.1 with the same drag radial/driver and im putting my money on the Eagle. The 6.1 will likely trap a mph or two more but the RT would likely 60 foot the **** outta the 6.1 to the point where it wouldnt have enough track to catch up. Now if this were on the street and ran past the 1/4 then yes the 6.1 would come around eventually.

The fbody should take the win.
Just curious and have a serious question not intending to be a smart *** but why bother putting times in your sig if they are going to be obscured to the point of being meaningless?
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E erything gothemi said is correct. Im not understanding why people cant grasp the fact that cars with 30/40whp difference cant be a drivers race. My friend ran at atco mid october with an 11 challenger RT. has an intake, srt catback, bogarts and mh racemasters and with a 6 speed was going 12.8's. given its dead hooking and great DA, its still a 6 speed car etc.

Its not that far off, the 5.7's can move out for sure if built right.
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Originally Posted by ****** srt8
I'm having a hard time believing this too. Can you link us to a vid of stock or I/E/T 09+ RTs in the 12s or slips with listed mods? I have gone to Charger Forums and Charger Forumz and I'm just not seeing it.
Theres your problem right there. You might as well be searching a Toyota forum.

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Just curious and have a serious question not intending to be a smart *** but why bother putting times in your sig if they are going to be obscured to the point of being meaningless?
Cause where I'm from street racing isn't racing from 50mph rolls for FREE. lol
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Originally Posted by Bloodykisses
Im not understanding why people cant grasp the fact that cars with 30/40whp difference cant be a drivers race. My friend ran at atco mid october with an 11 challenger RT. has an intake, srt catback, bogarts and mh racemasters and with a 6 speed was going 12.8's. given its dead hooking and great DA, its still a 6 speed car etc.

Its not that far off, the 5.7's can move out for sure if built right.
Anything can be a driver’s race. I won't debate that however, if you were to take the same driver in a stock RT and a stock 6.1 SRT8 same track on a back to back pass I'm sure there would be a noticeable difference provided the 60’s were very close. If not I should have saved the $$$ and got an RT. It takes excellent conditions or luck to get a stock 6.1 SRT8 in the 12s and it already started with more power. Mine stock baselined at 405whp/410tq.
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Originally Posted by GotHemi?
Theres your problem right there. You might as well be searching a Toyota forum.
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Im sure the 6.1 dose a low 13 and will run even with a ls2 gto neck to neck, my father owned a 6.1 challenger and man it hauled. Leads me to question a R/T braking past a 13.4 at most. Anything more would require modifocations. I think a stock Ls1 would be a good run for a RT ill bet on the Ls1 but as you get further into top speeds his weight will account for a lesser disadvantage, taking him from per say 25mph would result in you pulling ahead then holding him behind your bumper i assume. Even from 50 with 3.73 gears you will edge him out, and will pull from 25 for sure, ask him to race from both.

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Originally Posted by Dustinmciver8707
Im sure the 6.1 dose a low 13 and will run even with a ls2 gto neck to neck, my father owned a 6.1 challenger and man it hauled. Leads me to question a R/T braking past a 13.4 at most. Anything more would require modifocations. I think a stock Ls1 would be a good run for a RT ill bet on the Ls1 but as you get further into top speeds his weight will account for a lesser disadvantage, taking him from per say 25mph would result in you pulling ahead then holding him behind your bumper i assume.
A stock LT1 would give a stock 5.7 R/T a run for its money. And from what I have seen, I'd put my money on the LT1.
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Originally Posted by Raoul-Duke
A stock LT1 would give a stock 5.7 R/T a run for its money. And from what I have seen, I'd put my money on the LT1.
Perhaps from a dig, the RT makes 350hp vs the Lt1s 275. I cant see a Lt1 pulling a RT from a 50 roll, at least with my old 95 lt1, they make great power down low and ive kept up with stock LS1s up till 70mph then they just pull away hard.


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